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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Correct, they are believers and would be called Christians today.
The point is it's not what you say or claim, rather did you do as Jesus said, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, shelter the homeless, protect the weak. That is why if there is a heaven it will be filled with Buddhists and Taoists, and Animist, and Atheists but damn few Christians. It's a hard sell and much easier to simply sell 'salvation'.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5 |
That is why if there is a heaven it will be filled with Buddhists and Taoists, and Animist, and Atheists Hopefully I would be able to opt out if I found myself in that unlikely situation!Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3 If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
Yeah I would opt out of any heaven.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Of course you could opt out but you can still come over for the Low Country Boils, Crab Feasts, Bull Roasts, Beer Fests, Mud Puppies, Red Beans and Rice, Fish Fries, East Carolina BBQ, Texas BBQ, KC Ribs, Fried Green Tomatoes, Water Mellon, Mush Mellon, Cantaloupe, PawPaws (they are really great, when I was little we had a PawPaw patch), Turkish Coffee, Cuban Coffee, Matcha, even Turkish Delight ...
Set a spell and eat your fill and leave when you recover enough to be mobile. Think of the Loaves & Fishes parable. No preaching, no lectures jess good food.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5
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Some of that food sure sounds great, but heaven would only work for me if I'm with my 4 best friends with our cameras and our nets on a dragonfly stream with specimens that challenge our skills to the max every day!
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3 If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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The sheep are asking when did they ever help Jesus himself, and Jesus answers that when they helped the least that they also helped him.
The goats are saying that they did help Jesus himself, and Jesus answers that because they did not help the least they did not actually help him. The sheep on the right, the true believers by evidence of their actions in helping the least, are rewarded with heaven. The goats on the left, not true believers by evidence of their actions in not helping the least, are not rewarded with heaven. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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That's the point. But ask Phat if he is a 'True Believer'? Ask USA 1776? Ask Dredge?
The point is that a vast portion of today's Christianity, the Saved and Salvation folk, the MAGA group and their answer will be 'Yes, they ARE the True Believers'.
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
Are you suggesting that the Church Folk are the equivalent of the modern Pharisees?
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Drag Queen story hour at the local library does by and large *not* produce good fruit. It simply displays a secular ideology and LGBQT Rights. I would think twice before letting my kid immerse themselves in progressive culture.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17909 Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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quote: Hello Faith. Still whining that people dare to defy the tyranny of lying bigots? You make the Pharisees look good.
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Jesus doesn't divide the people of all nations by whether they were followers but by whether they helped the least, who would be rewarded with heaven. Though the passage isn't explicit about it, also helping Jesus, i.e., what you're terming a "true believer," would not have been held against them.
A side note: Contrary to what most evangelicals claim, Matthew 25 says that the peoples of all nations will be judged according to their deeds, not according to whether they accepted Jesus into their hearts as Lord and Master. --Percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
Well we already know you are a homophobic, Christian, white nationalist so this is not surprising.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Phat writes in Message 173: Drag Queen story hour at the local library does by and large *not* produce good fruit. It simply displays a secular ideology and LGBQT Rights. I would think twice before letting my kid immerse themselves in progressive culture. You deserve credit for one thing, not attempting to hide your bigoted attitudes. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
But what I was originally responding to was this in your response to Phat:
jar writes in Message 161: Why do you keep lying when everyone can actually read Matthew 25 and see that it was the followers of Jesus that were the goats while it was the folk not following Jesus that were the sheep. In Matthew 25 Jesus doesn't divide people into followers and non-followers in the way of modern evangelicals. He addresses the people of all nations, regardless of whether they knew him or not, and divides them into those who will be rewarded with heaven and those who will not based upon the way they lived their lives. I think the message to Phat and candle2 and Dredge and so forth should be that their posts indicate that they may not be living their lives in a way that would be rewarded with heaven. The lack of compassion for the least (migrants at the border for just one example) seems proof positive of that. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The first group are surprised because they know they never did anything for Jesus.
The second group are surprised because they know they did things for Jesus, they even say when did we NOT do things for Jesus. They would be his followers but did not follow his call to serve others..
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