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Percy
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07-31-2024 12:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 11 by Dredge
07-31-2024 11:40 AM

Dredge writes in Message 11:
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jar writes in Message 2:
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Yup, pathetic and so dumb he doesn't realize that the best possible scenario regarding global warming is all the result of mankind.
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The earth goes through cycles of heating and cooling, so how do know global warming isn't partly natural?
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These data charts for global warming are from IPCC's (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) Summary for Policy Makers from 2021:
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They show that humans make both positive and negative contributions to global warming that on net are positive. The leftmost chart shows the observed warming, the center chart shows assessments from attribution studies, and the rightmost chart shows assessments from radiative studies. See the summary itself for details, and we can discuss this to whatever level of detail you wish.
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There's much other useful information in the summary's pages.
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--Percy
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Percy
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07-31-2024 1:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
07-31-2024 12:25 PM

Re: On The Beach
Phat writes in Message 12:
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Dredge writes:
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the earth goes through cycles of heating and cooling, so how do know global warming isn't partly natural?
My understanding is that it most definitely is partly natural.
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Where does your understanding come from?
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Perhaps jar is suggesting that if the "Christian Culture Of Ignorance" is neutralized as a political force and cultural influence, humans may have a hope of survival.
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Jar was not suggesting that. He was saying that if the causes of global warming are natural then perhaps we have a chance given that the natural causes might reverse themselves. Obviously if humans are responsible we're doomed since we're doing almost nothing about it.
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Of course, I disagree with his flippant dismissal of Christians who (as he would put it) "park their brains at the door" because it has been my experience that the rest of the people have their sins too. In other words, humanity is likely to be wrestling, fighting or fiddling while Rome burns.
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Remarkably irrelevant to what USA 1776 posted in The Salesmen of the Green New Deal.
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So how is the politics and global outlook from down under? I once read a book in school called On The Beach written by Neville Shute two years before I was born.
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You linked to the article on the film. The article on the book is at On the Beach (novel). How is global nuclear annihilation related to global warming?
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The two men most likely to escalate World War III to a nuclear conflict remain the heads of Russia and. or the United States. Do you ever see such a possible scenario or do you think, as I do, that society could mess itself up through many means other than nuclear war.
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Why are you drifting off into concerns about nuclear war in a thread about climate change?
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--Percy
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