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Taq Member Posts: 10304 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
jar writes: Particularly all the little children and animals who had done nothing to deserve death. This was especially so in the Exodus story where God killed the first born as punishment for Egypt's leadership not freeing the Hebrew people. Takes a special kind of evil to kill peoples' children for not doing what they tell them to. And it's not as if God has something against slavery either because he allowed the Hebrew people to put foreigners into chattel slavery.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.3 |
GDR has never shown himself to be very aware or self-aware. He seems to have built a bubble in which he has created his own reality.
As I have told Phat numerous times in the past. His beliefs have no effect on reality and seemingly reality has no effect on his beliefs What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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jar Member (Idle past 99 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The god in the whole Exodus tale is just plain disgusting yet that fact is simply not generally taught to Christians (except those that were in my Sunday School classes). Time after time the Pharaoh character says "No problem, just take them and go away" and the god character hardens his heart and makes him change his mind and so uses that to simply hurt folk more.
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Phat Member Posts: 18655 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
Tany writes: The God of the Bible is fulfilled in the character of Jesus Christ. Is Jesus a tyrant? Does He infringe on your precious freedom in any way? and the god of the bible is a bloody monstrous tyrant who claims to love us. Jesus owes no one anything except what He taught us to do. You elitists are so damn literal that you try and extrapolate a character out of the book as if everything in the book were made up. Which, if true, only puts you back in the group that thinks that no gods exist and that the whole book was made up! Now I suppose you will want more evidence. The Apostle to the atheists, our very own jar, suggests we all throw our preconceptions of God away and do what Jesus taught, expecting nothing and giving everything. Which is about the only teaching he has proposed that has no flaws or hidden motives...apart from this whole lame progressive idea that we have a mandate to lead the planet and be a people of common good. The point that is missing is whether we are capable of doing it. Get ready, Elitists. That antichrist Trump will probably win this election and you will have people to blame, like anyone who is a believer who refuses to throw Jesus away. But your opinions and beliefs are as irrelevant to me as mine are to you. None of you will ever believe what I say or take me seriously. And you wonder in awe why I don't respect your biased education. All I can say is stay tuned. We all will have to face the future together, but one thing I know is that the people will never have the power to get the rich to pay their fair share nor will you ever fully weaponize the justice system or the US Dollar. You might see that I knew what I was talking about in a year or two. Either way, I will never see eye to eye with most of you; in your mind, its my fault. I will be in the hospital for a few days so I hope to be back in a week with few complications.
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jar Member (Idle past 99 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: The Apostle to the atheists, our very own jar, suggests we all throw our preconceptions of God away and do what Jesus taught, expecting nothing and giving everything. Phat, Phat, Phat. I have never acted or written or posted anything directed at any atheists or attempted to market god to any atheists. But what I do post is supported by what is actually written rather than what the Carny Barkers called Apologists say the REAL meaning is. I never tell anyone to not look behind the curtain. Please stop misrepresenting what I write and what my positions are. And yes, if we are followers of Jesus should we not follow his teachings and do what is written that he commands us to do?
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nwr Member Posts: 6484 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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jar writes in Message 48: The god in the whole Exodus tale is just plain disgusting It was while reading Exodus as a teenager, that I began to question Christianity. The God of Exodus is so different from the God of the New Testament. And God is supposed to be changeless. I started to suspect that it was man who had created God, and the changes I was seeing were due to the changes in human culture.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Phat writes in Message 49: I will be in the hospital for a few days so I hope to be back in a week with few complications. What's going on? --Percy
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Phat Member Posts: 18655 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
My Doc thought I had an infection plus he wanted to operate on a toe but there was no infection and I'm back home now. *Whew!*
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Stay well.
--Percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.1
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Phat writes in Message 49: You elitists are so damn literal that you try and extrapolate a character out of the book as if everything in the book were made up. Which, if true, only puts you back in the group that thinks that no gods exist and that the whole book was made up! The whole book is made up and there's no need for extrapolation, the character of god is laid out in incredible detail throughout the book and the god of the bible is a bloody monstrous tyrant!
None of you will ever believe what I say or take me seriously. That's primarily because nothing you say is believable.
And you wonder in awe why I don't respect your biased education. All I can say is stay tuned. Mostly, what I wonder in awe of is your lack of self awareness.
but one thing I know is that the people will never have the power to get the rich to pay their fair share You are correct as long as the wealthy can buy corrupt republican politicians.
nor will you ever fully weaponize the justice system or the US Dollar. I assume from this disinformation that you think holding criminals and insurrectionists and corrupt criminal Presidents accountable is weaponizing the the justice system, but Trump calling for ALL of his critics to be locked up and in some cases executed is fair justice.
You might see that I knew what I was talking about in a year or two. That would depend on what you said, but as I have noted before, almost all of the content you write is empty filler without any actual meaning. What you write here provides a pretty clear indication that you support all the policies and threats from Trump and the republicans and ironically if those people win in November all your fears about the dollar and the economy and society will happen along with the probable collapse of civilization.
Either way, I will never see eye to eye with most of you; in your mind, its my fault. Yeah, I will never support tyranny! You need to read the whole PROJECT 2025.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3 If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq
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Phat Member Posts: 18655 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
jar writes: Too funny. The threat is your Willful Ignorance that was brainwashed into you by the CCoI.
How do I know that what you were taught is not itself cultural indoctrination? It sure seems to me that you were taught basically to not believe anything and to question everything not supported by (human-derived) facts and data. But you and I have been down this trail a brazillion times. Phat: Jesus died for my sins and has a plan to rescue humanity from collective willful ignorance. jar: Only the Christian Culture Of Ignorance is willfully ignorant. The rest of us are critically thinking skeptics and academicians more in touch with reality rather than fantasy. Phat: You are hopeless. Since you threw satan away along with God and Jesus, I cant explain why. jar: You and the CCoI are the greatest threat to world peace and stability that currently exists. Or are you going to complain that I misrepresented you yet again??!! You love to frame every issue in your own words. I do the same thing!
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nwr Member Posts: 6484 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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Phat writes in Message 56: Phat: Jesus died for my sins and has a plan to rescue humanity from collective willful ignorance. And you are failing that plan. Donald Trump has a diabolical plan to rip off the taxpayers for his own benefit. And gullible fools, such as we find among conservative Christians, are going along with that plan.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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