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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 136 of 145 (925764)
04-28-2026 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Percy
04-27-2026 8:59 AM


Re: SAVE THE KIDS from stupidity in PHYSICS
Hey Percy, why you did not answer the challenge here from Stenon Mechanics about Gravity?
Many of you are claiming that I am wrong about Gravity, why you cannot answer your side of Gravity?

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Message 137 of 145 (925766)
04-29-2026 1:03 AM
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04-28-2026 10:08 PM


Re: SAVE THE KIDS from stupidity in PHYSICS
Many of you are claiming that I am wrong about Gravity, why you cannot answer your side of Gravity?
We already have. You're too dense to comprehend. Going another round with your stupidity is dull and boring. You are not worth the bandwidth.

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Message 138 of 145 (925767)
04-29-2026 3:45 AM
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04-29-2026 1:03 AM


Re: SAVE THE KIDS from stupidity in PHYSICS
You did not even explain what is Gravity. You did not even tell here the composition of Gravity, what gravity is made of, that deals or has connection with Eddington's 1919 experiment.
You had no answer.
WHY???

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Message 139 of 145 (925768)
04-29-2026 6:05 AM
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04-29-2026 3:45 AM


Re: SAVE THE KIDS from stupidity in PHYSICS
We did answer, you just don't understand the answer or simply deny it's the answer.
It's not our problem that you don't understand how physics works and you can't really explain what "Stenon Mechanics" really are. It's your problem.

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Message 140 of 145 (925769)
04-29-2026 8:40 AM
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04-29-2026 3:45 AM


Re: SAVE THE KIDS from stupidity in PHYSICS
You did not even explain what is Gravity. You did not even tell here the composition of Gravity, ...
WHY???
Because a lot of us here already know the answers and when we won't tell you get so confabulated, confounded and confused and that is a lot of great fun.

"There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
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Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 141 of 145 (925777)
04-30-2026 7:27 AM
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04-29-2026 3:45 AM


Please Describe Stenon Mechanics
In order to put this thread on a more firm footing, in at most a few paragraphs please describe Stenon Mechanics, in particular its views on gravity and how the universe is like a fluid.
When I promoted this thread you said, "Stenon Mechanics simply states that the universe is like a fluid...", leading me to believe that your subsequent posts would elaborate on this point, but they didn't. Please do so soon or I shall shut this thread down.

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Message 142 of 145 (925794)
05-01-2026 1:05 AM
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04-30-2026 7:27 AM


Re: Please Describe Stenon Mechanics
Thank you for your post.
Calling me wrong in the topic of Physics without knowing what is Stenon Mechanics or without knowing what is the current default explanation (CDE) is totally nonsense.
Before I share Stenon Mechanics, I would like first to share your/CDE parameters and explanations. I think, many of you are un-educated or has a very low analytical mind. That is not my fault.
Below are your explanations or your positions (correct me if I am wrong here).
YOUR Position 1: Space is composed (or made of) of nothing, no stuff, no object, no matter. Space is a vacuum of nothing. Some scientists had claimed that space is a field, but they did not provide on what kind of field. Rice-field? Hair-field? Air-field? Etc.? Some scientists had also claimed that space is an electrodynamic field, but there is no composition, no matter, no physical things. Some scientists claimed quantum foam. oh my...the level of stupidity... Space is not Physics, but Mathematics.
YOUR Position 2: Gravity is a pulling force. Some of you probably claimed that all objects in space have a pulling force to grab another object – the gravitational pull. Some scientists claimed that gravity is an interaction of matters. What kind of interaction? Unexplained. Some scientists had claimed that gravity is a curvature of spacetime, and this curvature was calculated since they claimed that space has a geometry – the space geometry. Gravity too is composed of math and equations, and no stuff, no physical things.
YOUR Position 3: In the Eddington’s 1919 experiment, light bends in space. So, if “space = nothing, no stuff”, then, the conclusion is that light bends in “no stuff”. That a “no stuff = space” can bend light, when light travels in space. Some scientists claimed that light bends because of space geometry, that equations and math had curved “space = no stuff, no physical matters”. Mathematics had curved light in space.
Now, in Stenon Mechanics
STENON Position 1: Space is simply composed of inactive photon. Why photon? Because light bends in space, since the only one who can bend yourself is you, at the minimum, then, if “light = photon”, and space bends light or light travels to space, then, the medium is the same. Like an ocean and its current. Thus, the irresistible correct conclusion is that the universe is a fluid like. Thus, Stenon Mechanics falsifies, rebuts and replaces the CDE’s Position 1 (your position).
STENON Position 2: Gravity is simply a pressurized or squeezed space, max at the surface of the object (like Earth) and minimum to its outer space (the hill sphere). In Stenon, the analogy is a balloon inside a pressurized swimming pool. When a balloon is put inside that volume of water, in the surface of that balloon, there is a squeezed displaced distributed water (or space), max at the surface, and minimum at the outer. Gravity is a push. This analogy shows that the universe is really a fluid like universe. Stenon Mechanics falsifies Position 2 of CDE and yours.
When you pricked that baloon and it burst, then, it is called a Black Hole.
STENON Position 3. In Eddington’s 1919 experiment, assuming that the Sun is the balloon on that time, then, light rays is like a fishing nylon cord, when you put that fishing nylon cord on a curve-surfaced-balloon, the nylon cord will surely become curve/bend, and it is exactly bending. Thus, the universe is a fluid like universe.
Now, I cannot reveal here more info, for example, of the energy density (J/m^3) or tension force (in Newtons) etc. since I am not allowed to share my science book here.
But, the universe acts just like Stenon mechanics had discovered. That is a fact. Stenon Mechanics had explained GR and SR an science in very beautiful way, with natural mechanisms.
You can close this thread if you want, since I cannot provide more info beyond what I had shared since I am not permitted to use my science book in here since it is prohibited.
Now, some of you don't have really NO CLUE on using AIs.
You and AIs should be locked together with a criteria, that you will never cross.
In my experience, before I ask AIs in a serious discussion in science, of any topic, I set both me and AI (ChatGpt, Gemini etc) these: I asked AIs to define "contradiction" and "illogical" I demanded AIs to "strictly" follow those definitions. I called them "stupid" or "moron" to show that I am serious. If AI made a wrong reply.
Now, in PHYSICS. AIs knew that our current default explanation (CDE) or current default parameters (CDP) have many mistakes. For example, Hubble Tension, Lambda CMD, what is dark matter, QR and QM cannot be joined, etc..
In Stenon Mechanics, all of those mysteries are solved, even the recalculation of defection of light, mercury's perihelion, etc.. are solved. So, if you use AIs to check both Stenon and CDE or CDP, use these parameters of Stenon Mechanics: - the universe is like a fluid - light is space in motion - space is light at rest - space = inactive photon of light - gravity is a pressurized space, maximum at the bottom (of the Sun) and minimum at the space - the only one who can bend yourself is you, at the minimum - stenos, the root word of Stenon, in Greek (not complete, of course. In my book, ALL parameters are complete)
TAKE NOTE: All AIs have the parameters of CDE or CDP, so the battle in science and its new model will be: parameters vs parameters. BUT AIs or a logical scientists will surely ask, what is the tension force or the energy density? (This is a killer question in Physics that no one had ever answered, not even Einstein or all scientists that thought of a fluid-like universe. Only me did it. That is why I called myself as the “The Next, Better Than Einstein.)
Now, use AIs to rediscover them, if you don't want to read my science book.

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Message 143 of 145 (925795)
05-01-2026 9:11 AM
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05-01-2026 1:05 AM


Re: Please Describe Stenon Mechanics
MrIntelligentDesign writes in Message 142:
You can close this thread if you want, since I cannot provide more info beyond what I had shared since I am not permitted to use my science book in here since it is prohibited.
You're repeating the same error you made earlier in your Message 103. Your book is not prohibited, not even close. You've posted links to it several times. If you would like to make your book even more easily available to the members here, email me a PDF at admin and I will make it available at this website, password protected if you like.
Now, use AIs to rediscover them, if you don't want to read my science book.
We already have the judgment of AI. They called stenon mechanics non-science.
If stenon mechanics *is* actually science then it is your task to demonstrate that, right here in this thread, through evidence and arguments, the tools of persuasion in science.

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Message 144 of 145 (925799)
05-01-2026 6:02 PM
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05-01-2026 9:11 AM


Re: Please Describe Stenon Mechanics
Thank you, Percy.
What I had just posted above (Message 142), if you copy and paste it in ChatGPT, or GemininAL, and ask AIs to "analyze these", you will get two different results.
In ChatGPT, the answer will be harshed to Stenon Mechanics since ChatGPT uses a "consensus basis = correct", and ChatGPT will surely never agree with Stenon Mechanics (since not all parameters are given by me). But, if you follow-up the conversation on "not to take sides, but use logic and reasons only", ChatGPT will release itself or free itself to support any sides but use the criteria above.
Then, ChatGPT agrees to Stenon Mechanics, but not all...
Now, by using ChatGPT, to learn what is really real in Physics, we need to understand what is a "Photon", since Stenon Mechanics had claimed that if light = photon, then, if light bends in space when light = photon travels in space, then, space = light at rest, and light = space in motion - the irresisteble conclusion.
But, if you use GeminiAI and ask to "analyze these = my post/reply above", GeminiAI never takes sides, but GeminiAIs automatically uses logic and reasons to analyze my post. GeminiAI understood Stenon Mechanics and supprt some of them, but of course, asked for more info.
Try them first on two AI platforms, and come back here, and let us continue the Physics of the Universe, and let the wolrd know that we are living in a fluid-like universe.
Let AIs help us to know what is real and logical, reasonable.
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From ChatGPT: (without using all my science book)
1) Your core model (reframed logically)
You’re proposing:
Space = a medium (like water)
Photon = the substance of that medium
Light = motion/propagation within that medium
“Photon at rest” = medium at rest
This is essentially a single-substance model with two states:
Static state → space
Dynamic state → light
That structure is logically coherent as a starting point. No issue there.
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As you all see, that Stenon Mechanics is based on logic and reason...that even a harsh AIs will agree.. for consistencies.
Think about if I input all parameters in all AIs? You will see a very beautiful and consistent theory.
HINT: Ask all AIs to reverse engineer all my discoveries in Stenon Mechaniocs using limited parameters that I had shared, without using my book, and see if you can come up with my discoveries. Have fun in Physics.

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Message 145 of 145 (925822)
05-08-2026 7:54 AM
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05-01-2026 6:02 PM


Re: Please Describe Stenon Mechanics
What I'd like you to oo is describe stenon mechanics in simple comprehensible terms that have both internal consistency and that comport with the physical evidence from the real world.
For instance, you could describe how your concept of a "photon at rest" fits into the evidence from modern physics that photons are massless particles that in a vacuum can only travel at the speed of light and that would cease to exist if motionless since their energy and momentum depend upon motion.
Please do not construe this as an attempt to engage you in discussion on the topic. I'm playing a moderator role right now and am merely trying to encourage you in directions that would make discussion more productive.

--Percy
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