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joshua221 
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Message 2 of 297 (93655)
03-21-2004 12:38 PM
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03-21-2004 11:14 AM


Thanks Abby, needed some information.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 4 of 297 (93745)
03-21-2004 8:20 PM
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03-21-2004 2:05 PM


Simply need information of the other side, I often find myself in debate when in fact I don't know their side of it.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 6 of 297 (93749)
03-21-2004 8:30 PM
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03-21-2004 2:05 PM


I feel that a YE is necessary for Biblical truth to exist. (Although this may seem circular.) I do believe that Biblical truth exists, so I am constantly researching to find if possibility remains. So far, many rebuttals to Evo's arguments are dwindling from what I learned at camp, and I realize that the mentor who taught me was very wrong, going from meetings with Dr. Hovind, I don't know how he could be right, it seems Dr. Hovind sometimes gives arguments that are humorous at most to Evolutionists. So right now I know that a YE has to be a possibility because of the Genesis account, but most of my information has been refuted... So pretty much any info is good info at this point.
Most arguments that I do well on, are mainly ethical or moralality issues, such as abortion or Biblical technicalities like homosexuality, Jesus, and/or others.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 7 of 297 (93753)
03-21-2004 8:34 PM
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03-21-2004 8:28 PM


Thanks Sylas.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 9 of 297 (93918)
03-22-2004 5:59 PM
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03-21-2004 11:35 PM


"it will survive the loss of YEC as well"
Your confidence is humorous. Obviously not being done with my 9th grade Earth Science Class, I am in no way capable in holding an intelligent, and valid discussion with you, but somehow I doubt what you say is true.
Also no, have not read the Jefferson Bible, let me click the link, thanks again.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 10 of 297 (93921)
03-22-2004 6:03 PM
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03-21-2004 11:35 PM


quote:
. . . Thomas Jefferson believed that the ethical system of Jesus was the finest the world has ever seen. In compiling what has come to be called "The Jefferson Bible," he sought to separate those ethical teachings from the religious dogma and other supernatural elements that are intermixed in the account provided by the four Gospels. He presented these teachings, along with the essential events of the life of Jesus, in one continuous narrative.
Understood, sounds pretty interesting, but the "Supernatural" elements which are discussed here, I believe as truth, so why read a "Jefferson" Bible, when I have it in my grasp in the KJV, NIV?

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 12 of 297 (94238)
03-23-2004 7:53 PM
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03-23-2004 12:54 AM


Re: why not OEC
quote:
Your confidence is humorous. Obviously not being done with my 9th grade Earth Science Class, I am in no way capable in holding an intelligent, and valid discussion with you, but somehow I doubt what you say is true.
quote:
I do enjoy sarcasm. Seriously though heliocentrism dislodged the earth from being the center of the universe and the christian faith has survived. Is age that different a "challenge" to the faith? I think it is less so, as the age is ultimately indeterminate from the bible ... have you tried?
Nope, no sarcasm there, I am seriously about a quarter through a semester of my 9th grade Earth Science Class... Not Joking.
Of course there is difference. And yes, I agree that the main intention of the Bible is not to reveal the Earth's age. Many think that it doesn't matter, as long as you live according to the Bible, you'll be "OK" and Yup you'll go to Heaven... This is not the case for me, and most likely the same goes for others, I need answers, answers of not only how to live but of how we came to live. I feel that YEC is not a lost cause, and as long as Genesis is in the Bible it will remain this way, or at least I hope so...
quote:
What is wrong with Old Earth Creationism?
Old Earth Creationism is fine with me for the most part, of course a literal view of the Biblical accounts of Genesis are not fully exploited.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 13 of 297 (94239)
03-23-2004 7:56 PM
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03-23-2004 12:54 AM


Re: why not OEC
quote:
there are still some flatearthers after all
I've seen this line twice in a week, haha I love it. Check the Sig.
(Loudmouth: once, Abby: once)

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 16 of 297 (94542)
03-24-2004 6:01 PM
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03-24-2004 12:02 AM


Re: why not OEC
Ok.

The earth is flat.

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joshua221 
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Message 17 of 297 (94543)
03-24-2004 6:03 PM
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03-24-2004 12:05 AM


Re: why not OEC
Addition is a necessity.

The earth is flat.

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