Is macroevolution a religion? Should we rename it evolutiontarianism?

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"murderous taliban", Ring a bell?

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Look, if you have a substantive point to make, make it.Explaining your point with a complete sentence or perhaps (gasp!) a short paragraph would be most welcome."Debate by soundbite" is a waste of time.

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I believe darwinism is a false religion.

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If you mean darwinism as a belief in eugenics and social order, then I would agree that it is a religion. Also, creating a world-view around evolutionary theories is also the wrong thing to do. Forming one's beliefs around scientific theories is a fals religion. However, this does nothing to refute the scientific validity of evolutionary theories, which stand on their own in the absence of religion. This is what you are afraid to tackle, the scientific support for evolutionary theories. Instead you attack a bumper sticker. It seems that you have missed the point about debating science, and would prefer to make fire and brimstone speeches that pull at the heartstrings instead of dealing with objective data. Preach all you want, but it will do nothing other than label you as a fanatic instead of one searching for the objective truth.

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By the way, I'm still waiting for the apology, or at least a justification, for the comparison you made between scientific academics and the murderous Taliban.

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That was an incredibly offensive, unjustified insult that I insist you either justify or retract.

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It seems your memory is failing you...(Twice)You claimed ken equated Sci. Academics with the "Taliban".(Deep Breath)You asked for an apology.I said, it is better for Scientific academics to be associated with the Taliban, than it is to be equated with flat-earthers... Of course this is a meaningless joke.Check the Sig.

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The earth is flat.

Subtantive, no, not really.

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The earth is flat.

To: crashfrogI do not pretend to know all the motivations of all the individuals who have darwin fish on their cars although I know you have offered alledged anecdotal evidence which may possibly be true. I do know that the followers of darwinism promote/preach their belief via darwin fish on their cars. This is undeniable. It is obvious that many or all are snubbing a particular forms of religion via their fish. I would also say that perhaps they have other motivations as well. Again, it is undeniable that darwinism is being promoted and that certain forms of religious faith is being jabbed at. I do know this type of promotional/preaching behavior is not as widely done by other psuedoscience/science adherents via their cars. I have nothing further to say regarding this matter.Sincerely,Ken[This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-24-2004]

I'll note that you've retracted your claim, then.

Right.Not substantive.Therefore, it doesn't really belong in a debate thread.If you want to chit chat, please head to the Coffee House or Free For All threads.