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Chimp
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Message 1 of 5 (96236)
03-31-2004 3:17 AM


A set is a collection of elements/members, and the identity of the set is defined by its members, or elements. The identity distributes over its elements/members. For example the set of natural numbers has a type of identity, "natural number". Sets are subsets of larger sets and the larger set has a distributive identity that distributes over its contents.

So the distributive identity forms a relation.

The set of all dogs has the identity of "dogness" and that set is contained by the set of mammals which has the identity of "mammalness".

Finally we reach the highest most inclusive set/container/relation, the "set of all that exists". The "G"[God] identity distributes over the whole shebang.

G[sum of all that exists]

G[a+b+c+...+n] = Ga + Gb + Gc +...+Gn

G[God] is the greatest common factor. Take any two "things" that exist and see what is different and factor out the common elements, and begin to break the common factors down to the most basic ones. Take two pieces of matter, for example, apples and oranges, at a more basic level they are just forms of energy. Take energy and spacetime and discover that they are mutually dependent in a fundamental way, related by a common factor. Keep going until the most basic factor is derived/discovered, G.

From the "G" factor, all possible information about the universe can be derived. Every possible universe that follows from the "G" principle is equivalent to an infinite amount of information. Therefore God is omniscient.

From the first principle, the "G" factor, everything exists, since it is the greatest common factor. Without the most fundamental identity, nothing could exist. Therefore God is omnipotent.

The G factor distributes over the sum of all that exists. Therefore G is omnipresent.

Since there is only one greatest common factor. God is a monic entity.
A definition that agrees with monotheism?


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Message 2 of 5 (96238)
03-31-2004 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chimp
03-31-2004 3:17 AM


Chimp aka ... aka ... ???
CHIMP -

THE IP NUMBERS AND WRITING STYLES SEEM TO INDICATE THAT YOU HAVE ALSO POSTED UNDER AT LEAST 2 OTHER ID'S.

CARE TO COME CLEAN ON THIS? THIS IS A FORUM VIOLATION.

Adminnemooseus


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Chimp
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Message 3 of 5 (96545)
04-01-2004 2:31 AM


Perhaps I wish for a degree of anonymity. If it is a forum violation then banish me.

A set is basically a collection of elements, and the set contains its elements.

The problem with postulating a largest possible[all inclusive] set is that every set is contained by its power set.

For example, if a set contains "N" number of elements, its powerset is 2^N elements.

Solution:

The highest most inclusive level of containment corresponds to the deepest most basic level of meaning.

subjective<-->objective

The Universal set is the Universal Mind. No matter how large[infinite] a powerset is, it corresponds to deeper and deeper levels of meaning, as the infinities grow larger and larger
giving "closure" to the Universal Set.

The "Absolute".

Since this resolves the "largest set" paradox, it gives irrefutable proof of the Universal Mind.

[This message has been edited by Chimp, 04-01-2004]


  
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Message 4 of 5 (101688)
04-21-2004 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chimp
03-31-2004 3:17 AM


Chimp:

What is your source to claim that God is omnipotent/omniscient ?

What is your source for monotheism (if you are purporting monotheism) ?

I mean besides the claims within your text, do you have another outside source to confirm these claims ?


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atrejusan
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Message 5 of 5 (102319)
04-23-2004 9:54 PM


Actually, chimp, you have, in an unnecessarily roundabout way, argued for the existence of the Universe.

In order to argue for the realness of a monotheistic presumption, you'd have to distinguish Him from the set of all sets.

Perhaps you're a Taoist and you don't know it yet.


  
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