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coffee_addict
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Message 10 of 49 (97622)
04-03-2004 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by like god
04-03-2004 9:54 AM


I am speaking purely from a scientific point of view (I am an atheist).
If an embryo only has 24 chromosomes instead of 46:
(1) the embryo is immediately aborted naturally. There are not enough info for the embryo to develop into a fetus.
(2) by some miracle, if the embryo is not aborted, it will become a grossly deformed fetus possibly with missing body parts. The fetus will then die.
(3) if, by some miracle, the fetus does survive and is born with very very very serious serious serious health problems and disfigured. The child will not be able to survive for long after birth.
(4) if by some miracle the child survives and reaches puperty, he/she will be infertile. There are not enough chromosomes for meiosis to occur. Without meiosis, gametes (sperms and egg cells) can't form. In other words, the individual is as "anatomically impaired as a candle."
(5) if by some miracle the individual's sex organs can have meiosis taking place (which at this point I can't see how this is possible at all), the individual can only mate with other miraculous individuals who have 24 chromosomes in order to produce 24 chromosomed offsprings.
(6) Then, the whole process of miracles happen all over again.

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coffee_addict
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Message 11 of 49 (97624)
04-03-2004 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by like god
04-03-2004 12:37 PM


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I recognize that there are genetic diseases resulting in abnormalities or death, but my understanding is that the first 22 pairs of information are in fact pairs. If the information is redundant than a being could live without it? How often are chromosome counts done on "normal" individiuals ie ones that have not gone to the doctor with a defect or ailment? Has anyone ever looked??
People need all 46 chromosomes in order to survive, period. Even if someone who's missing a chromosome happen to survive, there would still be things seriously wrong with this individual.
Take females with only 1 X chromosome instead of 2. These females would have turner's syndrome. This syndrome includes but not limited to complete lack of menstruation or ovulation (sterility), webbed neck, shield chest, and below average height.
Since you argued that the first 22 pairs are just copies, what's wrong with taking the pair of X chromosomes into this account?

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