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Will probably close soon.Concluding remarks?Adminnemooseus

Yep - it seemed like a big waste of 'time'. Pun definitely intended!

Concluding remark from me. Arkathon still does not understand why speck is wrong. The difference between a speck and a region is that a speck is an identificable thing -- a common mistake in understanding cosmology. A region does not "look" like a speck because when you look you see is one great expanse, with nothing making the chosen region stand out from the whole.Arkathon's theological views will never mean anything as long as they are so plainly predicated on material he does not and will not understand, and which are trivially in plain conflict with all the evidence. The conclusions of science that arkathon does not like are not assumptions, but genuine and surprising discoveries based on a wealth of empirical data and obsrevation. The spirit universe gibberish is a shallow mockery of the concept of spirit used in the bible and in theology; and the refusal to let faith be informed by observation results in a brittle faith that is of interest only as a psychological curiosity, rather than a source of genuine spiritual or moral challenge.Cheers -- Sylas

Or what is wrong between his concept and the observed depth and age of the universe, and transmission of light, and never answered about the problems with the age of the earth or other versions of the concept that did not make the YEC assumption and thus did not have those problems.Like hitting jello with a hammer. Makes a satisfying splat, but it's still jello.

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we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
{{{Buddha walks off laughing with joy}}}

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The difference between a speck and a region is that a speck is an identificable thing -- a common mistake in understanding cosmology. A region does not "look" like a speck because when you look you see is one great expanse,

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Yes an 'expanse the size of at one time a pepper speck! Was it dark, or light? Or was it invisible like the spirit world?
You offer no clue to the spirit world, or that my ideas of it are unbiblical. On the contrary.

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Or what is wrong between his concept and the observed depth and age of the universe, and transmission of light,..

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Observed and aged by what you can observe. Adding in the unobserved, changes everything, and leaves us with dignity and hope for the future. The key to understanding our universe is to add God and the spirit world in,the missing link, not trade Him for a little region of expansion as big as a speck.

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Yep - it seemed like a big waste of 'time'. Pun definitely intended!

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Your big bang has a lot more time in it to waste! And it seems you are just the man for the job. Thanks for not graceing the thread with your astro projections. The cussing was at least bite sized.

I think your answer is in arkathon's last posts