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RAZD
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Message 8 of 12 (98605)
04-08-2004 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Jackal25
04-07-2004 8:44 PM


sexual selection
another thing to consider is the role sexual selection may have played
Precis of 'The mating mind: How sexual choice shaped the evolution of human nature’ (click)
The supporting evidence includes human mate preferences, courtship behavior, behavior genetics, psychometrics, and life history patterns. The theory makes many testable predictions, and sheds new light on human cognition, motivation, communication, sexuality, and culture.
Sexual selection often creates an evolutionary positive-feedback loop that is highly sensitive to initial conditions. It therefore tends to produce extravagant traits that have high costs and complexity, yet these traits are often unique to one species, and absent in closely-related taxa.
The idea is that sexual feedback is responsible for the increase in the size of the brain through increased reliance on song and dance in courtship and selection for innovative displays.
Finally, language was a secondary result of this form of communication.
Who do you sing to?
Enjoy.

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RAZD
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Message 10 of 12 (98720)
04-08-2004 3:35 PM
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04-08-2004 3:04 PM


Re: sexual selection
there are also people that argue that the predeliction for song and dance {ceremonies \ courtship} is a predisposition that has naturally conflated into religion ...

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Message 12 of 12 (98735)
04-08-2004 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Loudmouth
04-08-2004 4:01 PM


Re: sexual selection
Oh I fully concur on the difficulty -- I doubt we will ever know for sure what the specific triggers were, as the means necessary to do so boggle the mind in both complexity and ethics (make clones from DNA samples???)
And another item not touched on is the {babble \ coo} bonding between mother and child ... could the first "words" actually be just doubled up attention getting sounds? (mama baba dada doodoo)
ahahahhahaaaaaa

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