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Error 404 (Not Found)!!1It's the whole kit bag of arguments! wow..but what struck me as funny was the assertion that not onlyare we Atheists non-existant walking sacks of Immorality anf vice but also that we are un-intelectual too.. (the bananna thing 2:30-3:30)I must say this steps up a gear from what I'm used to.As to the whole "Are you a good person" routine. Please.This message has been edited by ohnhai, 27-04-2006 01:52 PM

What struck me was the interview with the "atheist". The "atheist's" answers sounded like they came out of a Jack T. Chick tract; they were exactly the answers that an evangelical would expect from their stereotypical atheist. I suspect that "interview" was scripted. (Although, I admit that if you interview enough people, you are bound to find someone who will give you the answers that you want.)Yeah, that banana thing was pretty funny. Sounds like an explanation of all the "fullfilled prophecies" that some keep going on about

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

This is classic gold, as soon as you said the banana thing, I knew what the show was. There is a humorous piece about it here, fantastically titled: Argumentum ad Bananum

The whole thing is funny. It is as simple-minded and stupid as anything I've ever heard. I want to keep it somehow for future reference.

Well its not as funny as the evolution one they did, kirk cameron ruined my childhood

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Why is it that you never hear "the artichoke argument" from these folks? Or the "taro root argument?"

Kudos to Ray Comfort for clearing up all the misconceptions I had about atheism. He just cuts right through all the bullshit and exposes atheism for what it is, an excuse hate God.Here's something I made a long time ago: Kirk Cameron is basically my hero.

Alright, I had to stop that half way through and leave the room...This message has been edited by Chronos, 04-28-2006 11:18 PM

The "interview" with evolutionists:
1. These people are very young and have little education on evolution and biology in large and so are unrepresentative of evolutionary thought.
2. The use of "evolutionist wording" such as 'probably' and 'perhaps' as a fallacy, just comes to show the ignorance of the "interviewers" of the scientific method.
3. In one case the "interviewer" asked if the organisms that came out of the sea were male or female (a blunt error) and then asked if they were maybe bi-sexual, which demonstates the extent of his knoledge of the subject (he should have said either hermaphroditic {which would also be incorrect but at least a step in the right direction} or asexual {because sexuality is also an evolved trait - the evidence in the single-celled/multicelled organism called Volvox, which is basicaly a community of single-celled organisms working together, some of which are specificaly adapted to sexual reproduction [the key being myosis] and others to other functions - witch makes the half way between multi- and single celled}).

This is a funny part:
"The real proof is what we can find in the fosil record, the bones that we dig up, and thats whats missing, the actual proof" (touching a dinosaur bone)
I know he was talking about hominid transitional fossils, but its still funny that he didnt realize what he was touching.

a resin cast of a fosil of a dinosaur bone. (if we are getting picky... )This message has been edited by ohnhai, 29-04-2006 07:22 PM

And Just for Fairness and lack of bias I give you Richard Dawkins on Religion (seems only fair...) Root of all Evil? Part OneRoot of all Evil? Part TwoRoot of all Evil? Part Three

I think that banana segment was the one of the most surreal things I've seen in my life.Two grown men showing how a banana demonstrates God's existence. You couldn't make it up.

Kudos to the "Ways of the Master"They expose people who believe in what they believe in for wrong reasons. Many people go through the education system, and they leave you no choice but not to believe in God. They don't even fully understand why. To me these kind of Atheist are no better than the green miracle rag.They bring people to their own conviction to what they know in their heart to be wrong. The Holy Spirit works in them to let them know the truth.The Atheist in the interview admits to living a good life, and thinks that will get him into heaven. Just like people who believe in "the greater good".Letting people know where all this comes from is not a bad thing. Condenming them to hell is a bad thing. That is why I stray away from if you believe in Jesus deal. I do not like when people say you must believe to go to heaven.But I do not think that any of it was staged. I look into the eyes of the people they are talking too, and you can see the gospel at work in teir hearts.I especially love when people will not call themsleves a liar. What's the big deal? You are what you are. If you believe in science, and you hold a rock in your hand, it's a rock. If you tell a lie, your a liar. Why is it so hard to admit? Your athiest, logical thinker, and full of knowledge, why does the truth become so hard to say?I don't know about the whole banana thing, but over all it is a good show. I have used it on telemarketers, and it works wonders. It's a direct and short method to preach the gospel using your own conviction that comes from the Holy Spirit.Yea, we can look around at the world, and only believe in what is measurable and tangable, but what is in your heart, and known as subjective is measurable too. From an objective mind comes subjective thoughts, all by accident.