The policy is to check EVERYONE at Heathrow and other airports this morning on the back of this huge terror alert. Is this necessary? Limited security resources are spread thin and disruption is maximised. Thus there are associated financial and security risks with this policy. How necessary is this policy? At what scale does this policy becomes untenable?
[still in the process of moving and only just got limited net connectivity installed, so apologies to all those I owe replies to from the past couple of weeks. will be back to normal in next couple of days]
So what you are saying is only to check White people like Richard Reid
:) I'm just raising the issue for discussion. And Richard Reid was fairly noticable in his appearance! And of coure this is precisely how security works in normal situations. My state of dress has always dictated the probability of being stopped. My none-white friends and colleagues have always suffered far more scrutiny. It is all a case of perceived risk potential.
No, I have not heard the news! Come to chat and tell me!
I also agree with Legend concerning blanket surveillance....
The classic fundie fear factor mentioned in Revelation is the one where everyone needs to have a mark without which they can neither buy nor sell.
If the government offered to guarantee peoples safety by insisting that humans register themselves by allowing identification devices to be implanted on their person, I wonder how many would comply with such a request after a few more 9-11's happen around the world?
There was an alleged plot this morning in the UK - but we have those every six months - Ricin, Forestgate etc - what happens is they arrest someone, call it a major breakthrough on the war on verb and then six months later release everyone without charge.
So you'll have to forgive the british public for being very cynical about messages coming out of the minstry of truth.
The policy is to check EVERYONE at Heathrow and other airports this morning on the back of this huge terror alert. Is this necessary?
Who, specifically, do you think they should limit their checks to? Brown skin and beards, perhaps? Are you aware that Al Queda specifically targets recently converted white muslims? That it teaches techniques for not standing out by your appearance?
Are you aware that Al Queda specifically targets recently converted white muslims? That it teaches techniques for not standing out by your appearance?
Of course, but the numbers of such are tiny - the idea of a group acting in concert is hopefully fairly implausible, though of course this could change - and with *limited resources* do you equally target mothers, famililes, etc? The innocuous (i.e. not the shoebomber) white terrorist acting on the small scale is virtually unstoppable without sacrificing western infrastructure (as we are today)
The white terrorist is no more or less stoppable than the Arab terrorist unless you decide to hamstring yourself by adopting racial profiling (while alienating the vast majority of entirely peaceful, law-abiding Arabs as a free bonus).
In the US we have responded very effectively to the threat you guys so efficiently uncovered. We immediately stopped all boardings on all flights and made everyone line up and throw away any bottles of handlotion or mouthwase or soda that they had.
No more carry on cosmetics or soft drinks to threaten the world.
Oh, and we are also sending some Air Marshalls to make you guys feel safer too.
"No liquids or gels. Shaving cream, shampoo, contact lens solution -- all of it has to be checked," Strum shouted to the would-be vacationers and business travelers who surrounded her. "You cannot carry any of that on. If you try to carry it on, you will be sent back."
But there was also Good News.
For those hoping to get on an airplane, the hours-long wait to pass through security checkpoint had one small silver lining: since flights were also being delayed, airport workers told them, it was possible that after clearing the checkpoints they could still get on board.