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jar
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Message 1 of 4 (337709)
08-03-2006 1:28 PM


Recently the very first Creation story was found. Each of you have received a portion for you to translate dealing with how one of the different animals came to be. The very first page has been translated, but the others still await your help. Hopefully as you translate the section about the animal in your segment, you will post the translation here for all to see.
A Djinn writes:
The Djinn, oh Best Beloved, not just any Djinn but the very Eldest of the Djinn, the one that sat at the edge of the world at the beginning of time, that pulled the sun up from the deeps on the very end of his fishing line on the very first day, the Eldest of the Djinn was determined to share with all that he imagined.
He set the sun in place then turned his back to it, and his shadow, a deep darkling dancing shadowy shimmery shade squiggled its way across the desert until it touched the Great Green Forest at the other end of the world. “Come my Children” he called, “Come and get the gifts I give you.”
The deep darkling dancing shadowy shimmery shade shook itself at the very edge of the Great Green Forest and slowly started to shrink. As the deep darkling dancing shadowy shimmery shade slowly crept back towards the Eldest of all Djinn sitting with his back to the sun, it drew from the Great Green Forest all of the creatures that had been hiding in the shelter of its shade.
The Eldest of all Djinn sat with his head beneath the sun and all of the creatures he had created sat or lay or stood or squatted in a circle before him.
“Come Forward my Formless Children” the Eldest of Djinn said as he balanced his turban on the sand by his side. “Formless you shall be no more and in my turban (for it was a most magical turban) is that which will fill your formlessness with fantastic features of fabulous familial fluctuations.”
Edited by jar, : -e

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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MangyTiger
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Message 2 of 4 (337762)
08-03-2006 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-03-2006 1:28 PM


You really think we've got a bunch of budding Kiplings here at EvC?

Oops! Wrong Planet

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jar
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Message 3 of 4 (337763)
08-03-2006 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by MangyTiger
08-03-2006 4:28 PM


I have learned to never underestimate the amazing breadth of talent here at EvC.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 4 of 4 (349882)
09-17-2006 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-03-2006 1:28 PM


Man
And that, which cannot be described looked down on a creation. "Why are you here?". One must realize there was no reason for this creation's existence. A creation capable of a varied range of action, emotion, blessed with a palette of literal freedom it breathes. And that, which cannot be described spoke in man's tongue, in man's action, on man's palette and It said "You are special, you are special, you are." For one becomes distressed knowing that it's existence, it's purpose is survival and that it's dominance is but a natural epoch of the animal kingdom, that man wasn't made in power but man rose from nothing in violence and death, from little homo erectus, from habilis, from Sahelanthropus and now. I won't follow the instructions of a simple one who paraphrased Voltaire unknowingly in her "Invent a religion" statement (it does make me feel better). Amazing how man can become irate when you question it's purpose. The creation saw the world about him and wondered where to start, for everything here is perfectly fit for It to live and thrive, there's no sound in space. Why one has a conscience is is hard to reason if it was not instilled in it by a God. A better explanation in terms of Natural Selection? Those that cared survived, for they were vital for the group but one does not understand how did this TRAIT COME ABOUT, how did any trait come about, any personality or shape of an organism or object, how does something change to something it never knew? "Ah, mutation my friend!" says those that glorify reason (the abusers of the Socratic method in some cases), but does this person realize I am challenging the existence of anything, of everything, of all the laws of the universe that guides, binds, and provides an environment for abiogenesis to occur. The shape of atoms, the qualities of molecules, why? It is a very interesting mystery indeed. For if one does not see this problem then he/she is simply not thinking into the depths of physical reality, our environment. I am only giving a hint of the advancement of the teleological argument(I am slowly devising).
And man exists, was there a "hunter-gatherer problem", as in man was not allowed to flourish intellectually? Possibly.
Man multiplied and man sinned. Man killed and man kills, man is a murderer, from Prehistory (before written word) until now man has hurt fellow man and man has been consumed by trivialities. There are many sociological reasons for the human condition or nature. Man will be forever defined by his environment. Is it a tragedy? I ask That which cannot be described "Is this a tragedy?" What is the reason for this absurd world with these creatures that cannot be you, that are severely limited, their mind's mobility is limited, what for. What does it mean for man to exist, why? There are no reasons. Creatures killing eachother and dying. There is an afterlife, but again for what reason?
Afterlife hypothesis:
Hell- Those that take advantage of others in the system, those that meaninglessly exploit others for trivial purposes and do not realize they exist, fully treat people as means(Kant).
Nonexistence- Those that never realize they exist.
Heaven- Those that are above this existence and would appreciate such a place (that may or not be eternal bliss, mind numbing, to be outside of existence (I Heart Huckabees, the ball), that is all speculation).
I guess I must accept the Genesis, and it predestined us, it predestined us...

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