Ever lasting life with or without God.

In recent years science and technology have expolded. Technological advancement and scientific knolage will continue to extend the life and quality of that life of human kind on earth. Someday through genetics, biology and technology man will throw off the shadow of impending death. Whithout death, what will the masses belive? Is it the work of God or man? After living on earth 100,000 years in a far distant future, knowing you will never die, what would you belive?

Someday through genetics, biology and technology man will throw off the shadow of impending death.This is doubtful , even if we could prolong life , which is unlikely, we would succomb to injury or disease.Its Jesus Christ who can give you eternal life.all you have to do is believe in him and confess your sins, however small you think they are , and you WILL have life everlasting , and no one can take you from his hand,
And all that for asking , not a bad deal is it?

mike the wiz writes:

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Its Jesus Christ who can give you eternal life.all you have to do is believe in him and confess your sins, however small you think they are , and you WILL have life everlasting , and no one can take you from his hand,
And all that for asking , not a bad deal is it?

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BZZZZT!Pascal's Wager. I'm so sorry, mike the wiz. Johnny, tell him what parting gifts he has!Well, Bob, mike the wiz has won himself a lifetime of anguish in someone else's hell! Yes, that's right. After spending all of his life fighting against Satan and worshipping the Christian god, mike the wiz gets a reward of going straight to Hades for his hubris. He'll be sentenced to solve a series of puzzles for which the instructions can be read in many ways. Every attempt to glean more information will be met with "Since it would just be a waste of my time to tell you, I won't." Of course, every proposed solution will conflict with something in the contradictory instructions. This being for his continued insistence that those around him are unworthy of explanations.But, he won't get hungry because he'll have an afterlife-time supply of Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco Treat.You didn't really think that the god that truly exists is the Christian one, did you?------------------
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You didn't really think that the god that truly exists is the Christian one, did you?Yes , in fact , i know he does

And this 'knowledge' comes with proof, does it?

i have faith , and God helps me and answers me an guides me , that is how i know he exists , and also i have heard many many testimonies of Jesus healing cancer , diseases,blind people e.t.c
did you ever see the evangelist who was so invaded by cancer he had tumors all over his body ,there was medically no chance of survival, huge efforts of prayer were made ,and he got healed, i've never seen anything like it in my life . even his doctors who were non believers believed it was a miracle.it shown him before and after , it WAS a miracle.Ive heard and seen many many more stories like this.is this not proof?

Well if this your criteria for proving that God exists then you have to explan these following cases.From 404 Not Found Sai Baba has cured hundreds of people who have had serious illnesses. He is endowed with all virtues and yet attributesless, Sai Baba is an incarnation of Lord Shiva. The Good Lord incarnates age after age to redeem mankind from sins. (BabaSai.com is for sale | HugeDomains) So as well as the Judeo/Christian God we also have a Hindu God, how many more Gods are there in the celestial zoo?There are many examples of Allah healing Muslims who have been prayed for. There are also examples from other faiths, such as Sikhism, where praying to God has 'healed' a person.So how do these people get healed, is it psychosomatic and if it is then isn't it perfectly possible that the Christian healings are psychosomatic also?Remember that the Christian God is a jealous God and does not look to kindly upon people who worship other gods, so there's no excuse of His all loving Grace falling upon these unbelievers.How do you explain this?Brian.

So how do these people get healed, is it psychosomatic and if it is then isn't it perfectly possible that the Christian healings are psychosomatic also?how about a man who bound a dog in Jesus' name from tearing another man to pieces.how about the fbi agent who went to expose a preacher by saying 'heal me then' i have a bleeding condition and need new body parts and he recieved them.are you saying his new parts grew back of there own accord? or was this in his mind?what about the woman who had a super long tongue since birth , and it shrunk as people watched in Jesus name. how about the man in the vietnam war who was running and heard a voice say 'turn left' even though no one was there , and saved his life because there was a cliff edge straight on, indeed Jesus even took him to Jerusalem and said to him 'now do you believe?.what about the man who died and wasn't christian and asked every single name from his religion to save him and then he thought 'i remember the name Jesus '(as he remembered falling to hell)and Jesus saved him because he called his name ,in fact this man went on to become a evangelist and escaped death for preaching in his homeland because weapons bounced off him because he called on the holy spirit.need i go on

Hi Mike,I dont want to appear mean, but essentially you haven't answered my question.All you have done is to give other examples, which I am sure there are parallels of in other faiths.Could I ask you again how people are healed by prayers to other gods?Many ThanksBrian.

Brian, you're also allowing the "examples" to stand. Without any reasonable documentation at all. The best guess is that they didn't happen as stated.

Hi Ned,I was going to go on to the other examples after Mike gives an explanation for the healing of followers of other gods.This is a typical inerrantist tactic. When faced with a question that they have no explanation for they just ignore it and regurgitate some other nonsense hoping that their opponent will forget the original question. I have had too many discussions with inerrantists to let Mike off the hook that easily.Once the first question has been answered then I would move onto the other 'examples'.What about the 'superman' evangelist that weapons just bounced off him because he called on the Holy Spirit, I think the Holy Spirit he called on came in a whisky bottle. But we can ask for documentation after Mike clears up why false gods heal their followers.Thanks for the reminder anywayTake careBrian.

false gods , do not heal their followers in my opinion because they are made up. the true God does heal ,as promised as foretold as requested. i have never heard a good enough case for a false god healing.however i could write a list as long as my arm for the people Jesus has healed!!!

'I think the Holy Spirit he called on came in a whisky bottle'what a pathetic attempt to rid a genuine testimony of a man.the same lame sarcasm come from all non believers in my experience.

What man? What testimony? If you want us to take claim like this seriously you're going to have to provide a better, more substantial claim than "I heard of a guy, bullets bounced off of him."Sorry if we seem dismissive but you're asking us to accept a highly unlikely story based on evidence that's less than hearsay, and could just be made up. Not that I'm accusing you of making it up - I'm sure you heard it somewhere - but there's no difference as yet between your story and one I could invent right now:"I heard of a guy who was so in tune with his chi that bullets bounced off of him."

HI Mike,You still havent explained how these people are healed. Whether you like it of not the incarnation of the Hindu God Shiva Sai Baba has literally hundreds of documented healings. There are countless examples of people who do not believe in the God of the Bible who are healed by their own particular God.Think of this, lets say for a minute, for the sake of argument that it is confirmed by everyone that Jesus is God and has healed all these people, lets say that no one doubts this at all.This still leaves the question unanswered because countless people who worship other gods HAVE been healed, I am not saying that their gods healed them but something did, so what, in your opinion was it?There must be some explanation for it.What do you think it is that has healed these people?Best WishesBrian