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Brian Member (Idle past 4985 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
I know ray is suspended, but at least he can read this and maybe he can reply in the future.
I am shocked to read Brian's rant/loss of composure. There was no rant and no loss of composure.
I thought we were friends. We are friends and that is why I am trying to get you to stop this silly boycott. You should not let other people’s behaviour determine your behaviour, you should concentrate on yourself and how people view your character. So what if two members were suspended for alleged lying, the suspensions were only temporary. It has nothing to do with anyone else except the members themselves and the admin team.
I take no pleasure in it. From what he wrote it is obvious he intentionally said things daring me to call him a liar. I intentionally wrote things to try and waken you up out of your pointless stance. Look at what I said and then think about this. Now, I trust you 100 %, I know your heart is in the right place and that you do your best to research the subjects that you post. However, what I posted was to show you how other people may perceive your actions. It may look to them as if you are looking for an excuse to run away since you have been promising this science paper for a while now. I understand that it is difficult to stick to a deadline and that often unforeseen events can delay the conclusion of a paper. But there are people who will see this boycott over absolutely nothing as an easy way of having to present a paper that is not of a decent enough standard.
I will leave you alone. I would rather you came back to discuss archaeology, the old testament and ancient near eastern history, apart from Jar and Arach, there’s hardly anyone else interested. So, drop the boycott, drop Percy a line to be reinstated and stop letting the actions of others determine your behaviour. At the end of the day Ray, all it takes is for the two members to drop Percy a line and they are back in, hardly worth getting upset about. Brian.
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
But I will allow it to continue as long as this "friendly advice to Ray" thread does not in any way become negative.
So to add in my 2 cents worth: Ray, communication is a precious and useful tool. Each and every one of us have different beliefs and reasons for these beliefs. It matters not so much whether we can convince each other of the validity or "proof" of our beliefs so much as it matters that we are all concerned about being civil to one another. Seemingly, Brian has a good point. I disagree with Brian on a lot of things, many of which I cannot logically win an argument with him on....but I do not let our different philosophies and theologies stand in the way of our civil and valuable online relationship as peers at EvC. Ray, you have been around here a long time. I have never been persuaded by many of your points, nor you probably of mine... But I am more than happy that you are a member of EvC and I hope that you humble yourself to the administrators and come back! For Brians sake....so he can have a debating partner again!
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Admin Director Posts: 13032 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
Phat writes: But I am more than happy that you are a member of EvC and I hope that you humble yourself to the administrators and come back! Just for clarification, moderators are not looking for anyone to humble himself, just a sincere indication that the Forum Guidelines are understood and will be followed.
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6379 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
If you read this Ray I would just like to add my support for you working out with the Admins a way to get re-instated (and better yet not suspended again afterwards!).
I would rather you came back to discuss archaeology, the old testament and ancient near eastern history, apart from Jar and Arach, there’s hardly anyone else interested. I am interested in these subjects but don't know enough to contribute, but I have learned a lot from reading the threads discussing ideas Ray has raised and others have responded to. If for no other reason I'd like to see him come back. I also really do want to see the evo-killer paper Ray is working on, no matter how long it takes him to finish it. I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then
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ReverendDG Member (Idle past 4136 days) Posts: 1119 From: Topeka,kansas Joined: |
I agree, he brings up interesting things, sometimes wrong, sometimes right
I would rather you came back to discuss archaeology, the old testament and ancient near eastern history, apart from Jar and Arach, there’s hardly anyone else interested.
awww i don't count brian?
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Brian Member (Idle past 4985 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi mate
Sorry about leaving you out it is just that we go back a long way and it is only relatively recently that you have joined in, i'll add you next time
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1370 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
since it's more on-topic here than the moderation thread:
quote: from talk.origins googlegroup: (moderators feel free to remove the language, but i have left it intact from ray's original post, regarding islamic suicide bombers)
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Lithodid-Man Member (Idle past 2956 days) Posts: 504 From: Juneau, Alaska, USA Joined: |
Amen, Arach
Doctor Bashir: "Of all the stories you told me, which were true and which weren't?" Elim Garak: "My dear Doctor, they're all true" Doctor Bashir: "Even the lies?" Elim Garak: "Especially the lies"
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1370 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
he's called me an athiest again, over at t.o. i told him that he was just showing his inability to refute, and that it was another classic enraged pyramidologist rant.
they really bat him around over there, because, as he put it, there's no censorship there. it really puts a perspective on the creationist claims of bias over here -- to see the evolution side act the same way. you realize that, over here, we don't. and we COULD. but the rules apply to us, too. not just the creationists. we hold up our end of the bargain regarding civility -- -- the question is: why can't the christians here do the same? if anything, shouldn't the christians be more civil? more compassionate? better behaved? nicer?
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