Guess they cured cancer

So, uh... looks like they cured cancer, then.No... seriously.Look, I'm a ten-year-plus smoker. Can somebody who knows medicine please go ahead and tell me if this is legit or not before I start wildly pumping my fist in the air, laughing at cancer, and screaming, "USA! USA! USA!"?

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It's legit as far as the story goes. It works in vitro but it needs serious testing on human subjects before we'll know how well it really works. My understanding is that it's promising but other treatments have looked very good in similar tests. Maybe it'll be a cure for a lot of cancers. Maybe it'll be useful for some cancers and not so good for others. Or maybe it won't be much use at all in real cases. It's promising enough to be worth looking at, but it's way too early to start celebrating.Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

i'm no medicine guy, but if that's true, that's awesome.guess we'll really just have to wait and see.not everyday a paradigm shift like this happens, and when they do, well, they do sound crazy. let's just hope it ain't a perpetual motion device (or rather, like the current claims about them)

to give it a try.ps -- shouldn't that be "Oh Canada" eh?

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search: dichloroacetatehttp://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/ - updates...http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/cancer_cell.pdf - the paper in question.Edited by RAZD, : added linksEdited by RAZD, : No reason given.

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Sounds like good news, but I'd like to know the pharmacokinetics. I'd be concerned about cells in the centre of very large tumours. If they aren't getting enough oxygen, then the flow of blood-borne substances must be reduced. Can the molecule manage to be delivered to cells in the centre of a tumour in sufficient amounts?I'm going to do a bit of digging on this to see what I can find. As a smoker for 31 years I'm very interested. And yes, I am kicking the habit soon.

Given that someone who has died of cancer is somewhat less likely to be reproductively successful than some who is still living, and that this drug is fairly simple and has at worst a few minor side effects, one has to wonder why evolution hasn't provided us with an innate process for making it in the correct amounts at the correct time so that cancer would be a non-issue. Given the horrific complexities our various immune systems demonstrate in fighting other, less debilitating deceases, oozing a little dicloroacetate should be a slam dunk.

I just read an article today about concerns that some cancers appear to be appearing in younger (under 40) individuals and doctors are missing it because it is not expected.Cancer is still predominantly a disease of us oldies and thus it has only a small effect on reproduction and only a very small one on survival of offspring.So there is not a strong selective pressure on any solutions to it.In addition, it maybe that there is no suitable pathway to evolve the DCA solution anyway.

I wont believe it until I see it work, but if it does that's awesome!

I liked the part that it proves evolution mutations not responsible, it is quite interesting. Here are some other cancer stratagies, some I'm sure you will not do but interesting non-the less. I find it interesting that the FDA by approving aspartame it might have increased not decreased Cancer. Home - Dr. Clark Information CenterThe FDA is allowing aspartame to be used in the food industry and soda sweeetners and its quite ironic that wood alcohol apparently increases Pancreatic Flukes that are apparently present in people that have cancer.Rubbing Alcohol, Wood alcohol allow a parasite called the pancreatic fluke to grow in the pancreas, there is liver flukes apparently that are found in most people that have cancer. Hulda Clark suggest a purge of the body with green walnut hulls, worm wood leaves, and cloves to kill the eggs the parasites that are present in most people that have cancer. She also uses a zapper to help kill these parasites and well its one of those integrated medicine approaches to cancer. Another interesting approach to curing cancer with derivitives of the persons own urine and blood (Antineoplastons) to cure brain cancers. kjv proverbs 5:17 and if its only thy own, let thy fountains be blessed (testosterone estrogen?). It interesting that the bible would say this in respect to proverb 5:15 to drink water and to drink from thy own cistern(but not if your on medication). We know that water increases the ph of the blood drinking water is good for ones health too. Its kind of how they heat the homes part of the air comes from outside and part is recycled thus the house never gets stagnant. It is quite interesting that its the seed that contains B17 that is believed to help prevent cancer. Its said that the cancer cell has an enzyme that converts triocyanate to cyanide to kill the cancer cell. If eating 10 almonds a day will not hurt you then I say go for it, etc...Edited by AdminAsgara, : Why can't people ever learn how to shorten their URLs?Edited by Charley, : No reason given.Edited by Charley, : No reason given.

"Relatively safe" may be a kicker here - dichloroacetic acid itself, like its mono- and tri-chloro cousins, is pretty good tear gas if you get ahold of the straight stuff. And I'm not real sure that carboxymethylating random sites around your body is a wonderful idea, though the researchers have no doubt given that some consideration. Interesting, though, for sure.

Oh, god. There's a reason why praying and "alternative" medicine (alternative to evidence-based, that is) made zero inroads into treating cancer, and why scientific medicine may have just done what we used to use as a phrase for "a miraculous, impossible accomplishment."AbE: Wait, what the eff? There's no such thing as "vitamin B-17". A B-17 was a medium-to-long range night and daylight bomber used in World War II.Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.

hey charlie, the last statement in the article refutes your statement: here it is: .mutations still exist. mutations are still responsible. however, mutations may not be the sole, or even most important, cause.think before you post rubbish.

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Personally I think God was trying to help the marriage before viagra, etc,,, proverbs 5:18-19.

(1) what makes you think some people don't have this mechanism: there is a wide variation in susceptibility to specific cancers within the population, with some people hardly affected and others dying within a year.(2) give that cancer usually occurs in old people (past the age of child care, not just reproduction) and that only in recent times have people survived long enough to die of cancer instead of something else, what would be the selection mechanism?Thanks.

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