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Topic: Some help with some superhero science
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CK
Member (Idle past 4150 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 1 of 28 (193036)
03-21-2005 12:03 PM
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OK - let's say we have a character that can control light (let's not get much more complex than that), let's call him Dr.Light. Another character shots Lightning at it (bear with me!) and he is able to catch/deflect/control it. Now my knowledge of Lightning is limited but would he be actually able to do that? My understanding is that the visual bit of lightning is not actually connected to the electric current bit? It's more of an indicator of where it's been (charged ions or the like?). Sorry if that's bit of a ramble but I'm a bit in the dark about this (pun intended). Anyone able to help me out or even able to understand what I'm on about? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 21-Mar-2005 12:06 PM
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Dan Carroll
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Message 2 of 28 (193058)
03-21-2005 12:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by CK
03-21-2005 12:03 PM
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PVP - 404 The last line of the strip pretty much sums it up. 
"Creationists make it sound as though a theory is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night." -Isaac Asimov
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 499 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 3 of 28 (193080)
03-21-2005 2:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by CK
03-21-2005 12:03 PM
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My question to you is what good will the ability to control light do aside from not allowing someone to see something?
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Wounded King
Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: 04-09-2003
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Blinding people, tanning people, sun-burning people, making people mistakenly believe the weather is suitable for a barbecue, the list is endless. TTFN, WK
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Maxwell's Demon
Member (Idle past 6251 days) Posts: 59 From: Stockholm, Sweden Joined: 05-09-2004
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Or... why not get really advanced and create images of things that aren't really there? I mean, everything we see is actually just light hitting our eyes, so if you could truly and fully "control light" you should be able to create illusions galore.
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Ooook!
Member (Idle past 5837 days) Posts: 340 From: London, UK Joined: 09-29-2003
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making people mistakenly believe the weather is suitable for a barbecue That's not a Superhero. That's a Supervillain!!! Damn that Evil Dr. Washout
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 7 of 28 (193109)
03-21-2005 5:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by CK
03-21-2005 12:03 PM
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My guess is that they're using a justification that goes like this: Lightning = electricity = electromagnetic spectrum = light I'm not saying that it's not bullshit, but that's probably what you would hear if you interrogated the author about it. I'm of the opinion that it's about as bullshit as Magneto being able to fly.
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 499 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 8 of 28 (193183)
03-21-2005 11:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by crashfrog
03-21-2005 5:27 PM
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the frog writes: I'm of the opinion that it's about as bullshit as Magneto being able to fly.
Magneto can't fly. He can, however, levitate anything that's made of metal. By wearing metalic objects on him, he can create the illusion that he is actually levitating. This is most apparent in X-Men 2 during the scene where magneto escapes from prison.
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Phat
Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Message 9 of 28 (193234)
03-22-2005 5:23 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by CK
03-21-2005 12:03 PM
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Dr. Light, Charles Knight, and a reply so Bright!
CK writes: OK - Let's say we have a character... let's call him Dr.Light. Another character shoots Lightning at it at what? at Dr. Light? (bear with me!) and he is able to catch/deflect/control it. Now my knowledge of Lightning is limited but would he He who? The second character or Dr. Light? be actually able to do that? Obviously in your universe! My understanding is that the visual bit of lightning is not actually connected to the electric current bit? It's more of an indicator of where it's been (charged ions or the like?). I am moving you into the seat beside Guido, and we need to get a good teacher! Lam? Where are you? Sorry if that's bit of a ramble No you are not! You like to ramble! but I'm a bit in the dark about this (pun intended). Anyone able to help me out or even able to understand what I'm on about? Good puns, BTW! Are we gonna go scientific and talk about lightning or are we gonna go SciFi and find out more about the elusive Dr. Light and his buddy, Buzz Lightning? This message has been edited by Phatboy, 03-22-2005 03:25 AM
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Phat
Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Maxwells silver hammer
Max writes: Or... why not get really advanced and create images of things that aren't really there? I mean, everything we see is actually just light hitting our eyes, so if you could truly and fully "control light" you should be able to create illusions galore. Is not the concept of vision just a reflection of an image? If so, and if the visible is really invisible until defined in our minds, would it not follow that we only think that we can imagine anything? In reality, what if image is an outer reality that we merely define? I never bought that S.I. swimsuit issue yet, BTW
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CK
Member (Idle past 4150 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 11 of 28 (193237)
03-22-2005 5:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 9 by Phat
03-22-2005 5:23 AM
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Re: Dr. Light, Charles Knight, and a reply so Bright!
I'm more interested in the Lightning bit - what is it that we see? My understanding is that the visual bit is basically a indicator of where it has been not where it is.
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Phat
Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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A riddle wrapped in a mystery
Lam writes: My question to you is what good will the ability to control light do aside from not allowing someone to see something?
It was 2 a.m. The preacher carefully put away the hymnals where everyone earlier sang a stirring rendition of "I saw The Light." He realized that by telling everyone more about the light, they saw something in him that shone on them....blinded them, really. He laughed. So he had them fooled! Soon, all of their money would be his, as well as their souls! His enthusiasm was interuppted by a tremendous clash of thunder! He ran to the window and looked out...when a sudden blast of lightning knocked him out. They later found him, stiff as a board and still clutching the song pages of "I saw the Light"...burned a bit more, now.
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Phat
Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Message 13 of 28 (193241)
03-22-2005 5:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 11 by CK
03-22-2005 5:32 AM
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Re: Dr. Light, Charles Knight, and a reply so Bright!
Charles, this is all that I could dig up... http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/...sci/1993/general/GEN015.HTM I am still "in the dark" about our hero Dr. Light. Whatever happened to him? 
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CK
Member (Idle past 4150 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 14 of 28 (193242)
03-22-2005 5:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Phat
03-22-2005 5:42 AM
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Re: Dr. Light, Charles Knight, and a reply so Bright!
He's actually a bad guy - It's not something I'm writting he's a badguy in a DC Comic. The other half got me an interesting book on Superhero Science and I was wondering about the "control" of lightning as the book never covered it.
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Dan Carroll
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Magneto can't fly. There was, however, some crap plot in the early nineties where Magneto was controlling people's minds by controlling the flow of blood in their brain (via the iron in blood.) At twelve years old, I knew that one was bullshit.
"Creationists make it sound as though a theory is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night." -Isaac Asimov
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