Phelps clan sued for $11 million

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Looks like Phelps has to pay up.This quote is telling:"We got more and we’re getting more appropriate news coverage than we’ve ever done"--Phelps in the articleI guess any attention is good attention. I also like how their website has Sweden on the list of places to be destroyed by god. Maybe they don't realize the state religion is lutheranism (whereas we don't even have a state religion).Let's see who defends this dirtbag.ABE:maybe it was his website that gave Buz the idea to say that countries like Sweden will get what's coming for turning away from god.

Fred Phelps gets a chance to do the right thing. may be a better place for this.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Maybe he hates Lutherans, too

I don't get it... so, why did this case go to court?

Jon writes:

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I don't get it... so, why did this case go to court?

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Because Phelps and his clan picket outside funerals, disrupting the ceremony.Back when he was just picketing the funerals of dead gay people, nobody in Congress seemed to mind. But when he started disrupting the funerals of dead Soldiers (saying that god had killed them because god hates the US for its refusal to completely destroy gay people), then Congress decided to do something about it and passed a law making it a crime to picket funerals at federal cemetaries (the "Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act," though various states had done so before Congress acted.)The text of the law can be found at http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname...

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Rrhain

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I was the Noncommissioned Officer in Charge of the honor guard for a funeral in western Iowa a few years back. We were told that the Phelps group was going to show up and to prepare everyone to not say anything to them, touch them, or give them any other reason to sue the army. Luckily, that was also one of the first times that the Patriot Riders showed up at a military funeral. Every once in a while things work out right.Sorry to divert a little off topic.

Ahh... so it's just another one of those freedom-limiting bills that congress has recently been sliding through as if on ice. Gotchya. Thanks for the clarity God Bless America.

and and Seems to be to be a conflict of rights in some ways. What's the phrase . . .your rights end when you trespass on another's rights?If so, Phelps and his cult were trespassing on the rights of the Snyder family.

Which one is that? They make no reference to any specic rights. How are we to know which ones they think should be left alone if they don't tell us what they're talking about?As is typical, they are just being a bunch of long-winded, content-free politicians; trying to justify their restrictions of certain guaranteed freedoms by babbling endless streams of rubbish. Ahh... So was that Amendment 3 they violated? Oh... silly me, forgot the disclaimer at the bottom of the constitution: Thou shalt not hate.Ptah! Censorship galore!

SO you think it is within the Phelp's rights to invade a private ceremony to tell a dead soldiers parents that their child is now in hell?If you think that has anything to do with free speech, then you have no fucking clue what freedom really is.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

you must realize, Jon has no clue period.I'd like him to answer the part about whether one's rights stop where another's begin.

Why not? It seems to be within his rights to invade a private ceremony to tell a dead gay guy's parents that their child is now in hell.Edited by Chiroptera, : typo

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Computers have cut-and-paste functions. So does right-wing historical memory. -- Rick Perlstein

Tell me, are all our rights and freedoms in the constitution?
Of course not.Or did you think the ERA is actually in there?
The right to privacy is not explicitly stated in the constitution or the amendments.
Since it is not, that means the government has no legal problem spying on citizens, right?
Oh wait, there is a legal problem--that of privacy.Thank you for saying that its AOK for the US government to spy on us because privacy isn't a right.

Well, you changed the typo before I could mention it.Onto the meat--what you mention is merely the hypocrisy present in our government, but it's no surprise given the desire by many to either not acknowledge or deny homosexuals their rights.Of course, Phelp's previous actions are not within his rights. It's just that nobody really seemed to care until he started targeting our 'heroes' (don't you just love the patriotism there?).

Thats bull.There may not be a law against it but still is not their right. Moreover it has nothing to do with speech. It has everything to do with privacy and harassment.As the cops arrest you for falsly yelling "BOMB" on an airplane they are not supressing your free speech. They are arresting you for endangering the public by inciting panic.That being said, remember the Phelps lost a civil suit. There were not convicted of a crime under the law congress passed.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)