Huh, the only reference I remember about rat-f**king was in All the President's Men. I have never seen rats getting it on. However, I do remember a part of Beavis and Butthead Do America showing a couple of vultures getting it on and the one was behind the other! As far as know birds are beak to beak, cloaca to cloaca (I hope I spelled that correctly!) Anyway, that was just a cartoon...
I am done until I can actually get some more info on animal sex. Any places I can look? I guess I don't know as much about sex as I thought I did!?! One thing, if you ever are feeling bad or sad or whatever and you need a pick-me-up, just look at a picture of two turtles in love. I don't know why, but that just looks funny!
My main familiarity is through nature programs on TV and direct observation. Ducks are relatively easy to watch at this time of year and they crtainly take the male-on-top position - in the water (to the point where the female is almost entirely submerged). The avocets I saw on TV - stilts are also wading birds but with even longer legs. Some birds do go face-to-face in courtship displays but I've never heard it said that they actually mate like that.
oh, i had one. i didn't get to far into it because i do not enjoy reading creationist rhetoric without being able to reply.
but here's one i found on the frist page:
but i want to call servant on this one:
Moreover, you are wrong on the topic of kinds v. species. A horse, donkey, and zebra are not considered the same species, but they ARE the same kind according to the Bible's definition. Also, a wolf, a cyote, and a huskey are not the same species, but they are the same kind as described in the Bible.
i'm reasonably certain that "kind" is a generic word meaning "division" or "type" just like it is in, you know, ENGLISH.
i looked up the hebrew word, miyn, in a concordance, and it gave me this really incoherent bit about the difference between "kinds" and "species" like so:
1) kind, sometimes a species (usually of animals) ++++ Groups of living organisms belong in the same created "kind" if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool. This does not preclude new species because this represents a partitioning of the original gene pool. Information is lost or conserved not gained. A new species could arise when a population is isolated and inbreeding occurs. By this definition a new species is not a new "kind" but a further partitioning of an existing "kind".
blb is great sometimes. lets you know what the word means, quite literally. however, sometimes, on important words, they write a huge paragraph with absolutely no justification whatsoever for anything it says.
if they had said "we think this is refering to genus, or family, but not species" it might have sounded a little more educated. but that shows clear and completely unreasonable bias towards creationism, and says NOTHING about what the bible actually says.
ironically, the list of uses of the word miyn below it are better. most of them appear to be refering to specific animals.