Are there Creationists here?

Are there Creationists here? I joined not just to debate but to meet people with ranged views. But I said one thing and I was suddenly surrounded by hundreds of ill-witted, ostentatious evolutionists. Where are you all?

I am a Cristian Creationist that understands that Evolution is a fact and that the Modern Synthesis TOE is the best explanation so far.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

I'm afraid you'll find that most cdesign proponentists don't last long here. They stroll in, trot out a handful of PRATTS (Propositions Refuted A Thousand Times), then meekly slink away when nearly everything they thought they knew about "evilushun" turns out to have been nothing but a bunch of lies. Either that, or they continue to press their arguments in the science forum then get repeatedly suspended when they fail to present evidence for their outlandish and unsupportable ideas, then eventually fade away from frustration.In any event, as an "ill-witted, ostentatious evolutionist," albeit one who can spell, I bid you welcome. I hope you enjoy your stay here and find this site informative.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Oh, I see. Yes I can see how that might happen.Thankyou for your welcome subbie, however dyslexia is not something I have by choice.

Do you consider a Theistic Evolutionist a creationist?

Hi, Naochian. A hearty welcome from a bonafide intelligent design evangelical, fundamentalist Biblical New Testament type non-evolutionist creationist Chrisitan.Like Subbie says, not many of the Biblical fundie variety last, but providentially I've been here over 4 years and just got my first (2 hr) suspension the other day. (permanently banned twice but we won't go into that). Things have changed for the better with a measure of more tollerance for my types. In fact I also am a moderator here for fairness and balance in the administrative team, so come on aboard mix it up with the folks (evolutionists) who need us for someone to debate and for us to minister to in debate. I purposefully chose to mix it up with someone besides the choir so I picked an evolutionist dominated place like this to engage, scrap and debate bonafide ideological counterparts. Well, I wasn't disappointed on that count. Like if you don't mind taking the heat these folks can dish out, fine. They're intelligent, tough and tenacious for the most part but as iron sharpens iron, much can be learned from them in debate and dialog.Bonifide Biblicalist believers appreciating popularity, praise, plausible propriety, prominence and approvalistic applause often find this site to be offensive, agnostic, omnivorous unorthodox, outrageous, overly zealous and obstinate. Now; question; which variety of Christian are you? Are you the variety that appears to claim Jesus for something like fire insurance who disclaim all the miracles as well as about everything else the Bible says literally; you know, the evolutionist naturalist/secularist variety, which some of the professing ones here are, or are you actually a Biblical literalist funadmentalist non-evolutionist evangelical intelligent design variety of Christian?Either way, a hearty welcome and may God bless as you bless us with your presence. Edited by Buzsaw, : edit phrase for clarification

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Sheesh Buzz. There is a lot of room between your two choices. How about Christians who whole heartedly believe that the Bible is divinely inspired but don't believe that it was ever meant to be read as a science text?There are those of us who do believe in miracles, who do believe that we are created beings, who do believe in the incarnation and the resurrection, who do believe that we are gifted with the Holy Spirit but are quite content to allow God to have created life through an evolutionary process.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

OK, we'll call that variety those who pick and choose which Biblical miracles to believe. Howzat? Edited by Buzsaw, : fix problems

That sounds fair, particularly as I have St. Augustine, CS Lewis and NT Wright in my grouping.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

Sure there are. Look, there's one here, getting all muddly about the age of the Earth. If you have some misinformation on this subject, perhaps you should chip in.

We are around. We kind of have to watch out step and not be caught in the wrong part of town after dark, or that mob of "ill-witted....evolutionists" might ban or censor us when the facts are seen to harm evolutionary theory. Evolutionists run this forum and they will not hesitate to misrepresent any Creationist or Designist that threatens their theory. Judging by what you have written it appears that you have been greeted (and warned) by the mob.I hope you stick around - you can count on my support.Ray Martinez, Protestant Evangelical, Old Earth-Young Biosphere Creationist, Paleyan-Designist.

As anyone can see, Jar is, let's say, confused. He argues Atheist-evolutionism tooth and nail; and a person could not differentiate anything he says about the Bible from something written by Richard Dawkins. He is also, of course, a member of the evolutionist inner circle here at EvC Forum. As for Jar's alleged Christianity:http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter" --Adolf Hitler (1922).As we can see - anyone can claim to be a Christian.Ray

And Martin Luther, a man whom you have described as "the theologian that God chose to ignite the Reformation, [whose] Biblical exegesis gave birth to Protestantism" also claimed to be a Christian, despite writing this: Truly, anyone can claim to be a Christian, even the hate-filled lunatic who founded Protestantism.

What if God really hated the Jews and Luther was just doing god's will? It sort of like the same with the fags nowadays. God hates the fags so all the homophobic conservatives and liberals alike are getting elected from their variations of "god hates fags" slogans.

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