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Author Topic:   Science Forum Suggestion :: Earth and Climate
Richbee 
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Message 1 of 14 (383479)
02-08-2007 12:43 PM


Environment
The hottest topic under Science is the Envoronment
Although a better sub forum heading under Scince would be:
Earth and Climate
(This covers the "global warming" debate, although I would not be adverse to a forum just to cover this HOT debate.)
See examples of sub topics for SCIENCE:
http://www.sciencedaily.com
Edited by Richbee, : Corrections

"All who wander are not lost." - J.R.R. Tolkein
Richard B.

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Message 2 of 14 (383497)
02-08-2007 1:08 PM


Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
Richbee 
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Message 3 of 14 (383521)
02-08-2007 1:53 PM


Global Change
Hmmm, Global Change is another, and consider the many topics under this forum title:
[Yikes, now I'm in over my Head!]
Global Change Topics
Atmospheric Composition & Air Pollution
Behavioral, Social, & Economic Dimensions
Climate Variability & Change
Coastal & Ocean Studies
Ecosystems, Biodiversity, & Biogeochemistry
Energy Resources & Use
Environmental Technology & Transportation
Global Carbon Cycle
Global Water Cycle & Water Resources
Human Health
International Activities
Land Use, Land Cover Change, & Agriculture
Observations, Modeling, & Data Systems
Solid Earth Sciences & Resources
Sustainable Development
Global Change at the National Academies
http://dels.nas.edu/globalchange/topics.shtml

Daniel Patrick Moynihan used to say “we are all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.”
Richard B.

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Message 4 of 14 (383526)
02-08-2007 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Richbee
02-08-2007 1:53 PM


Re: Global Change
while some of these topics are interesting in themselves, the main purpose of this debate board is in the debate between "evolution" and "creation", and related topics.
hence, geology is relavent to the debate. bible study then is also relavent. global warming, global cooling, whether or not there are pink elephants in your toilet aren't really relavent. hence, the "coffee house" forum. granted, it could probably be broken into a couple of forums, but . . .

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Message 5 of 14 (383667)
02-08-2007 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Richbee
02-08-2007 12:43 PM


Re: Environment
Yes, this is a very controversial topic. Aside from the EvC debates, the attribution of climate change to natural or anthropogenic causes is one of the hottest topics I've seen debates (and with the most hidden agendas).
In fact, I think there could even be a whole new forum for it. We just need a catchy title (like Creation vs Evolution is for this one).
Edited by Doddy, : No reason given.

"Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer

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Richbee 
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Message 6 of 14 (383680)
02-08-2007 7:20 PM
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02-08-2007 6:44 PM


Earth and Climate
Do you want two competing "camps"?
Quoting............
Lawrence Solomon, National Post
Published: Friday, February 02, 2007
Tuesday, November 28, 2006
In the global warming debate, there are essentially two broad camps.
One believes that the science is settled, that global warming is serious and man-made, and that urgent action must be taken to mitigate or prevent a future calamity.
The other believes that the science is far from settled, that precious little is known about global warming or its likely effects, and that prudence dictates more research and caution before intervening massively in the economy.
Canada.Com | Homepage | Canada.Com

Daniel Patrick Moynihan used to say “we are all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.”
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Message 7 of 14 (383695)
02-08-2007 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Richbee
02-08-2007 7:20 PM


Re: Earth and Climate
It's not that.
I was asking for some short, catchy names for those camps.
A site called "those who believe that global warming is serious and man-made vs those who believe that precious little is known about global warming or its likely effects" doesn't quite have the ring to it that you need.

"Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer

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Message 8 of 14 (383809)
02-09-2007 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Richbee
02-08-2007 12:43 PM


Re: Environment
EvC Forum provides specific forums for all topics related to the creation/evolution debate. The [forum=-14] forum is for all topics unrelated to the controversy.

--Percy
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Message 9 of 14 (384091)
02-10-2007 1:14 AM
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Re: Environment
How boring, and insensitive to the hottest issue on the Internet today!
Face it.
The Creo - Evo clash of Religious camps is over.
Yawn.
Time to adapt!

Daniel Patrick Moynihan used to say “we are all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.”
Richard B.

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Message 10 of 14 (384098)
02-10-2007 1:28 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Richbee
02-10-2007 1:14 AM


Richbee suspended for period yet to be determined
I just got done posting a warning to you here. Now I see the above message from you.
You have an indefinate suspension. We'll decide how long it is to be later.
Adminnemooseus
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Message 11 of 14 (384153)
02-10-2007 10:39 AM
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Re: Richbee suspended for period yet to be determined
I followed him around a bit yesterday and was dismayed, I see no reason not to leave it as indefinite.

--Percy
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Message 12 of 14 (384156)
02-10-2007 10:50 AM
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02-10-2007 10:39 AM


Re: Richbee suspended for period yet to be determined
On the other hand, boss, his OP suggestion on this thread has some merit (as I noted above) - although probably not for the reasons he thought. There are often good science-oriented threads, currently relegated to coffee house, that would benefit from the discussion constraints and evidential requirements of the other, more traditional EvC science threads. An "Other Science" forum not restricted to biology, physics and geology topics with direct bearing on evolution vs. creationism would be a nice site enhancement, IMO.

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Message 13 of 14 (384328)
02-10-2007 10:57 PM
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02-10-2007 10:39 AM


Re: Richbee suspended for period yet to be determined
Admin writes:
I followed him around a bit yesterday and was dismayed, I see no reason not to leave it as indefinite.
He had me pretty ticked-off, in regards to his postings in other topics, including the one I cited in the suspension notice(s). Then I saw the message just upthread.
Richbee writes:
How boring, and insensitive to the hottest issue on the Internet today!
Face it.
The Creo - Evo clash of Religious camps is over.
Yawn.
Time to adapt!
Being that this is the Evolution vs. Creationism forum, such an attitude really set me off. At the time I did the suspension, I wasn't really in contact with what this topic was about (in the "Suggestions and Questions" forum). In the context of this specific topic, his message probably wasn't that bad and my reaction was a bit extreme. Still..., in general, Richbee's presentations are highly problimatic.
Adminnemooseus

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Message 14 of 14 (384357)
02-11-2007 8:02 AM
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Re: Richbee suspended for period yet to be determined
If there is one key quality of a constructive contributor it is a willingness to accept and an ability to understand moderator feedback. Someone's standard mode of interaction isn't all that important if they're someone you can reason with. Randman would be a wonderful contributor to have in the main forums if he were just someone who when you said "cool it" he would just cool it. Richbee seems to be in the mold of Randman in being unmoderatable right out of the box, not an auspicious start, and we don't really need any more moderator headaches.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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