General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 13.0

Yet another continuation of the theme.This topic is intended for clear and concise discussions of admin actions, needed admin actions, or the such. Extended debate on other specific themes should have topics of their own.Please see the mess that ended the previous version of this topic series.Admins who have links to the "General Discussion..." topic in their signatures need to change the link.The previous versions, from first to last: Change in Moderation?
General discussion of moderation procedures
General discussion of moderation procedures: The Sequel
General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consecution
General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution
General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel
General discussion of moderation procedures - Part 7
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General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 9.0
General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 10.0
General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 11.0
General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 12.0Adminnemooseus

My apologies for intruding in the Great Debate thread. I had neglected to look at the forum. If only there were a way for me to delete my post.

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

talk to Taz. He seems to be able to hide posts (and I mean the whole damn thing, not just the text).Or do the simple thing. Delete all the text through an edit.

Oh, the moderators have already hidden the text, pointing out that I was butting in on a restricted topic. If there's a way for me to make it to be as if the post had never happened, that'd be better. Perhaps taz'll lay the magic on me.

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

*Blink*I cannot believe that you are thinking that! Taz is about to get suspended if he does any more disappearing post tricks. As for your intrusion? No big deal, really. I rather enjoyed your insight.

Taz-style hijinx are no longer possible. He's welcome to keep trying as I'd love to find more problem tags. The words in this post all appear between "xmp" tags, which, if the software is working as it should, are now automatically removed.

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Just for the record, I disappeared those posts because I screwed up in one of my tests with the tags that majorly screwed up the forum format. I disappeared them so you guys wouldn't have to read long strings of jibberish rather than the forum. Besides, you haven't seen me actually using that against anyone out of malice do you?Added by edit.Percy, aren't you glad there's someone like me around who finds the problems for you without actually doing any real damage? Just be glad that it was me doing it in a test thread. I did it months ago but none of you seemed to notice.Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : No reason given.Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : No reason given.Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : No reason given.Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, :

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there is no logical or rational defense for creationism. this is repeatedly proven on this site. creationism is based solely on arguments of emotion from authority period. since buz can't deal with this blatant reality, he decided to shut jar up.abuse of power 3.0.

Brennakimi, no such claim relative to the Biblicalist creationist constituency at large has been proven on this site. Did you read my admin action on member jar? Surely both you and Jar are aware that Biblicalist creationist arguments have not all been conducted purely on emotion and they/we do use other aspects of creationism agenda such as what I itemized in my moderation action. Whether or not you agree with the arguments of your counterpart members is immaterial for the purpose of this discussion.How about specifying why you think my action was an abuse of power. Btw, are you aware that it was Admin who administered the suspension on Jar and not AdminBuz? http://EvC Forum: Faith now has her own forum (pertaining to evcforum.net topics) -->EvC Forum: Faith now has her own forum (pertaining to evcforum.net topics)

no, because it wasn't posted in the suspensions and bannings thread. maybe you're right. but it doesn't have to be. it's an argument based on authority. it's from a book that claims to be the word of god. argument from authority, period. you used the word lie. i think that's a bit strong for moderator action, no? i'd wager you decided to add a little of your own authority to your whine against jar because you can't accept the fact that your beliefs are based on a book and nothing else. regardless of the truth of that book, there is not a rational or logical argument to be made, rather only the "god said it; i believe it" argument.

I see only half of my complaint to you was accurate. I apologize for the error.But it still seems evident to me that a moderator who argues a personal position--and in an insulting manner, to boot--has been provocative, and an in-thread reply does not deserve a suspension.Nor were Jar's comments off-topic. But if they were, so were most of those that came before, including mine and Admin's.As to whether they were a lie: the truth or falsity of his comments is one facet of our debate. It would be reasonable for you--as Buzsaw, not as AdminBuzsaw--to declare them false, but not to call them a lie. Folks get suspended for that.So shame on both of you.

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Next time all you need do is place your curser on the red suspension dot of any message of a suspended member and it gives the reason for the suspension as well as the one who administered the suspension is given. This has been the case for quite some time now. Thus there is no longer a necessity of informing regarding suspensions in separate thread by moderators as I understand it. Both you and jar have debated creationists long enough to know full well that I'm right and that not all Biblicalist creationists debate on emotion alone as the statement clearly implied. Thus the rare usage of the "L" word which I rarely ever apply to anyone. I don't see how this can be brushed off as a mistake when it was quite obviously a deliberate lie, given the messenger knew full well that it was a meanspirited falsehood aimed at Biblical creationists. 1. I would appreciate it if you would stop describing my action as whining when in fact it was Admin himself who obviously agreed with it by his action and his reason for the action. I have learned to be thick skinned here but you have admitted that perhaps I was right and I think you are being quite disrespectful and disingenuous, not to mention that you are by doing so implicating Admin as a whiner as well.2. Just like Jar, you are lumping all of the Biblical creationist input here at EvC in one lump and all such members in one lump which in fact includes two moderators. A number of Biblical creationists over the years including myself have applied a whole lot more to many debates than simply god did it, emotion and Biblical authority. Surely you have been aboard long enough to be fully aware of that fact.