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Author Topic:   January, 2010, Posts of the Month
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Message 1 of 23 (541873)
01-06-2010 4:21 PM


When you find a post that is too good to be missed, nominate it here as one of the January, 2010, Posts of the Month (POTM).
You message subtitle should include the author's name and the topic/thread title.
Message Format:
Author: Author's Name
Forum: Forum where posted
Thread: Thread title
Message #: Number and Link to the nominated message
Nominations should include a link to the nominated article, and a short comment on why the message deserves nomination.
Note: As always, this is not a thread for debates. Posts should be limited to nomination, seconds, and acceptance statements by nominees.

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Message 2 of 23 (541875)
01-06-2010 4:28 PM


Author: Rahvin
Forum: Science>Miscellaneous Topics in Creation/Evolution
Thread: Species/Kinds (for Peg...and others)
Message #: Message 346
Rahvin does a fantastic job breaking down taxonomy. So much so that the whole "what is a kind/what is not a kind" debate should be put to rest. This post should serve as a catalyst to draw the line and enable fundies to give us a working definition.
Great post Rahvin.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Message 3 of 23 (541910)
01-06-2010 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by hooah212002
01-06-2010 4:28 PM


Thanks hooah!

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Message 4 of 23 (541912)
01-06-2010 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Rahvin
01-06-2010 6:52 PM


Seconded
Seconded.
Especially when taken in conjunction with Message 355
And for once I cannot say that Rahvin has beaten me to writing a post I would have written because I wouldn't have written this.

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Message 5 of 23 (541915)
01-06-2010 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Straggler
01-06-2010 6:58 PM


Re: Seconded
And for once I cannot say that Rahvin has beaten me to writing a post I would have written because I wouldn't have written this.
I'm trying a different tactic. Rather than being adversarial and trying to strike the immovable object, I'm trying to point out misconceptions and show where we actually agree.
We'll see how it goes.

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Message 6 of 23 (541916)
01-06-2010 7:16 PM
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01-06-2010 7:13 PM


Re: Seconded
I'm trying a different tactic. Rather than being adversarial and trying to strike the immovable object, I'm trying to point out misconceptions and show where we actually agree.
Radical!! Seeking agreement - Whatever next?
We'll see how it goes.
When you get over this blatantly debilitating disease let us know.

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Message 7 of 23 (542108)
01-07-2010 5:37 PM


Catholic Scientist for thinking exactly what I'm thinking...
Author: Catholic Scientist
Thread: Theropods and Birds showing a change in kinds
Message #: Message 16
This post and the opener are a beautiful example of just how bloody obvious evolution and common descent are to those unblighted by religious dogma. And despite ignorant protestations to the contrary, CS's approach and tack are spot-on perfect

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Message 8 of 23 (542113)
01-07-2010 6:22 PM
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01-06-2010 7:16 PM


Re: Seconded
It reminds me of how Darwin was wrong about the strongest of the species fighting tooth and claw to be the survivor.

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Message 9 of 23 (542116)
01-07-2010 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by cavediver
01-07-2010 5:37 PM


Re: Catholic Scientist for thinking exactly what I'm thinking...
Bump to skip Sky's redundancy

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Message 10 of 23 (542445)
01-10-2010 5:57 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Sky-Writing
01-07-2010 6:22 PM


Non "Post of the Month" type content hidden
{Someone should very much know better that posting such in the POTM forum - Adminnemooseus}
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Non-topic material hidden.

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Message 11 of 23 (543269)
01-16-2010 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by hooah212002
01-06-2010 4:28 PM


Just had a read through Rahvins post.
Excellent. This is a good example of what was being talked about on the "Honest Debate: how do you read?" ([mid=5541443] 1) thread. i.e. you are making an excellent effort to understand and find some common ground. Unfortunatly ICANT's responses seem to also be a good example of what I said in the "Honest Debate" thread:
That is that we might find ourselves arguing against something simply because that person is on the other side of the debate rather than taking the time to understand a person's position and then recognising that we have some common ground.
I don't if ICANT is going to be much more help, but I would recommend that you have a look through what me and slevesque say in the What is a "kind"? thread. Hope that helps

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Message 12 of 23 (543277)
01-16-2010 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Dr Adequate
01-10-2010 5:57 AM


Re: Non "Post of the Month" type content hidden
Admin writes:
{Someone should very much know better that posting such in the POTM forum - Adminnemooseus}
Yes and no.
Let's have one set of rules, eh? Be fair. If we can't discuss the topic, then we can't discuss the topic. So delete Sky's post as well as mine. Or if we can discuss the topic, then allow both his post and mine. Or if we can only discuss what Darwin said with respect to facts and evidence, then delete Sky's post and leave mine.
The only rule that would leave his post intact and delete mine would be a rule that says that when two people disagree, the forum should privilege the person who does not provide any evidence.
But this is not the objective of the administrators.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 13 of 23 (544077)
01-23-2010 8:10 AM


Straggler and Iblis in the What exactly is ID? Thread
In the What exactly is ID? thread Straggler has been arguing with Iblis and Coyote that one can't equate creationism and ID, and beginning at Message 789 Iblis agrees with him. It's a wonderful example of the light bulb going on, and I congratulate both.
Who: Straggler and Iblis
Message: Message 787 and read forward
Thread: What exactly is ID?
Forum: Intelligent Design
--Percy
PS - Those of us who have been here a long time are amazed at something else. We're thinking, "Almost 800 posts in a thread and no problems. Wow!"

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Message 14 of 23 (544244)
01-25-2010 2:53 AM


Unorthodox Jon
In the 0.99999~ = 1 ? thread, Jon steadily insists that math is not reality but is in a hypothetical world all its own.
I respect him for tangling with the intellectual heavyweights around here.
Post#89
Edited by Phat, : fixed link

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Message 15 of 23 (544245)
01-25-2010 2:56 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
01-25-2010 2:53 AM


Re: Unorthodox Jon
Jon steadily insists that math is not reality but is in a hypothetical world all its own.
LOL. I appreciate the PotM, even though that is not what I am insisting.
Thanks.

[O]ur tiny half-kilogram rock just compeltely fucked up our starship. - Rahvin

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