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SwampDonkey
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Message 1 of 752 (565749)
06-20-2010 2:51 AM


It pains me to see good and honest creationists unprepared during debates with evolutionists due to a lack of understanding. I normally see confusion on both parts of these debates.

This is the place to ask your questions about how evolution works. This is the place to get your answers.

Dont be afraid to ask any question that comes to mind, I will answer and you will get the facts. I promise.


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Message 2 of 752 (565755)
06-20-2010 6:21 AM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Problems with evolution? Submit your questions. thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
  
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Message 3 of 752 (565757)
06-20-2010 6:32 AM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


What is your own position please? Are you a creationist?
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Message 4 of 752 (565765)
06-20-2010 8:37 AM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


When you say confusing on both parts, should we interpret that as "both sides are saying things that is not correct e.g. invalid arguments" or "both sides misunderstand each other"?
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Message 5 of 752 (565773)
06-20-2010 1:12 PM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


I will answer and you will get the facts. I promise.

Really? And what discipline, study, papers, accomplishments have you to your credit that lends credence to your knowledge to answer such questions?

Are you a biologist? Paleontologist? Christian? Buddhist? Republican?

Who are you? Why should anyone rely on your answers?


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Larni
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Message 6 of 752 (565775)
06-20-2010 1:43 PM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


What is the driving force of mutations and how come we don't find have half fish half land animals (if that's how we evolved)?

Hope two questions is allowed.

Edited by Larni, : Clarity


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Message 7 of 752 (565779)
06-20-2010 2:16 PM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


A couple more questions
1 If we evolved from monkeys how come there are still monkeys around?

2 How come we haven't evolved telepathy? It seems like that would come in handy.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

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Message 8 of 752 (565786)
06-20-2010 6:49 PM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


If Noah's world wide flood didn't happen, how come we can find sea shells on top of mountains?

If the Second Law of Thermodynamics states that disorder always increases in a closed system, how can things evolve at all? Shouldn't it be the case that things are breaking down slowly, which is what we observe in nature. God created everything perfect, and now we have genetic diseases of all sorts in every species observed.

What are the chances that a mutant male and female of the same kind arising at the same time in a population and finding each other to mate to give rise to a new species? Let us suppose that a population of cats will one day give emergence to the dog species. I know this isn't the case, but let us suppose so. There would have to be a cat giving birth to a male dog at the same time as another cat giving birth to a female dog so that the two could mate to give rise to the dog species. What are the chances of that happening?

Homosexuality has been observed in many many animals. Evolutionary theory says that things evolve to better adapt their environment and give the species a better chance to survive. But homosexuality is counter intuitive, since the individuals don't/can't reproduce. Evolution can't explain this phenomenon, but Creation can. As I mentioned earlier, our Lord created every species perfect, but as time went by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics sets in and things began to break down. Homosexuality is an abomination because it is a disease that had arisen from the breaking down of life.

Added by edit.

A long time ago, my good friend whose username on here is Nemesis Juggernaut gave a very valid point against evolution. If evolution is true, how come we haven't evolved wings? It would certainly be an advantage that is very desirable.

Many animals have sex for reasons other than reproductive needs. Sinners do this, too. If evolution is true, how come animals and sinners engage in such behavior since this is such a waste of energy for no good outcome (no babies are produced!).

Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Edited by Taz, : No reason given.


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Message 9 of 752 (565788)
06-20-2010 6:49 PM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


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Why is this page false?

[/creationist speak]

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Message 10 of 752 (565797)
06-21-2010 3:56 AM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


Are you comming back?
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Message 11 of 752 (565811)
06-21-2010 8:17 AM
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06-20-2010 2:51 AM


Evolution Proven Wrong Again
Hasn't evolution been proven wrong again, as described in the July, 2010, issue of Scientific American? Apparently fully developed birds existed along side dinosaurs. How about that, no evolution from theropod dinosaurs of the late Cretaceous, and no post-extinction evolutionary radiation into suddenly empty ecological niches, fundamental claims of evolution.

--Percy


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Flyer75
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Message 12 of 752 (565918)
06-22-2010 1:58 AM


So is anyone going to answer these questions? LOL. These are all good questions which most likely some here have answers for. And ya, is the OP going to show back up and respond or give input?

One question for me (and for the record, I don't think one can come up with one question that ends all discussion on the issue, in other words, my question alone, if never answered, won't disprove evolution totally, same can be said for creationism imo).

If comets have been proven by all scientists alike to only be able to "survive" for roughly 100,000 years, how are any still around if the universe is 4.5 billion years old?

I don't want to hear about Star Trek type Oort Clouds either btw.


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Message 13 of 752 (565933)
06-22-2010 3:19 AM
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06-22-2010 1:58 AM


Flyer75 writes:

If comets have been proven by all scientists alike to only be able to "survive" for roughly 100,000 years, how are any still around if the universe is 4.5 billion years old?


1) The universe is 13.5 billion years old. Our solar system is 4.5 billion years old.
2) What does this have to do with evolution?
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Message 14 of 752 (565935)
06-22-2010 3:28 AM
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06-22-2010 3:19 AM


sorry
Huntard,

Thanks for the correction on the dates.

Well, where do comets come from then??? Why do we still have comets around if they only last 100,000 years or less? When did they form? Just 100,000 years ago and if so, how? Will there be anymore comets when these ones burn up? Or do Oort Clouds really exist?


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Huntard
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Message 15 of 752 (565938)
06-22-2010 3:49 AM
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06-22-2010 3:28 AM


Re: sorry
Flyer75 writes:

Well, where do comets come from then??? Why do we still have comets around if they only last 100,000 years or less? When did they form? Just 100,000 years ago and if so, how? Will there be anymore comets when these ones burn up? Or do Oort Clouds really exist?


Well, I don;t really know about comets. But I suspect that if scientists hypothesize an "Oort cloud", they probably have some very good reasons to do so. They're scientists afterall, not really into just making some stuff up without any evidence whatsoever.
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