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Trump won 
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Message 1 of 5 (92149)
03-12-2004 11:49 PM


Hi,
I honestly tried to go to sleep but I couldn't I felt so angry.
Why Abortion should be supported (supposed reasons):
1. Rape victims.
Do two wrongs make a right?
It's horrible that you were raped and it isn't wrong fault you're pregnant but is it ok to essentially kill a baby even though you didn't put your pregnancy on yourself?
2. If it is your fault. (by unprotected sex)
Isn't it your responsibility to have the child and at least give it to an adoption agency? Reminder: If you don't it will die from murder.
3. If you have the baby you will die
This is where it is your choice to have the baby or not. This reason is the crutch of pro-choice enthusiasts. This is a very rare occurence and is used to make murder look nice and the last resort type thing. I have a friend that says she is pro-choice. The only reason why she is pro-choice is because of this rare occurence. Why support something that is so much more broad than that.
If you are pro-choice you support all of these reasons, and even perhaps the more inhumane atrocities that are being committed outside of this country. Although you can't get more inhumane, just more gory, to the point where you can see the baby so it makes you feel like you're are ordering murder. If they're just cells than you don't feel this way. It's not what the cells are, it's what the cells will become. You who support abortion are killing off future youth, maybe future geniuses who can better our world. But it shouldn't matter what they become either, you don't know anyway. All you know and all you need to know is that babies are dying by murder and you are partly if not all to blame.
What will you say to this?
They're just cells not a baby.
What will those cells become? What are you denying those cells and what are you denying what is the future of those cells of?
I am frustrated by how anyone can not see abortion as cold-blooded killing. If you don't see it as such please respond.
Most of the time when people say "you are blinded from the truth!" it isn't absolutely true, if not at all but if you think abortion is morally sound and ethical, if abortion isn't murder, death and killing another human being to become (at the least) then you truly are blinded and it's so tragic. It just doesn't make sense to me how someone could feel that way. Lord help mankind!

-chris

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Message 2 of 5 (92152)
03-13-2004 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
03-12-2004 11:49 PM


1.) rape victems
Whatever happened to rights to your own body? If you can't expect privacy for your own body, then why should you expect any other right to be upheld? A victem of rape is violated, and their personal choice is taken away. As a further burden, you are expecting them to carry to term the product of that rape. In fact, you are condoning the act of rape as a legitimate way of passing on genes. True, that rapist might go to jail, but from a genetic perspective, he has successfully spawned. Many women may well be able to come to terms with the rape and carry the child to term, but for many others, it would seem like additional punishment on top of being violated.
2.) Personal choice: On this regard I do agree to some extent. I think people are not cautious enough about protection. I also thing that sex education needs to stress all alternatives, ie absitince, safe sex practices, realisitc medical advice, etc. That being said, this portion of the pro-choice vs pro-life arguement seems to be were the real crux of the arguement lies.
3.) Health and welfare of the mother.
As a happily married man, I am planning on having children soon. however, if my wife has complications and is hospitilized, or something occurs during birth that threatens my wife's life, and the doctor asks me who to save, its my wife every time. My wife don't see eye to eye on this debate, but she knows full well if I have a choice who it would be. That isn't to say I wouldn't be grieved about the decision, but the choice for me is clear.
In normal circumstances, I would say that I support a pro-choice stance, however I must say that I have problems with an abuse of the practice. Likewise, I think anything after 3-4 months should go to full term, unless it is related to health issue or serious defect in the child (ie lungs don't form, unrepairable congential heart defects ect.) That is only my opinion of course.

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Macavity
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Message 3 of 5 (92155)
03-13-2004 12:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
03-12-2004 11:49 PM


Re: Points on abortion and the crutch of supporters
Chris:
You are aware that, according to some studies, approximately 50% of all fertilized eggs spontaneously abort?
Miscarriage: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia
Is this cold-blooded killing? This is certainly an abortion. But is this murder too? If so, who's the killer?
--Macavity

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Message 4 of 5 (92162)
03-13-2004 1:29 AM
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03-12-2004 11:49 PM


There are millions of eggs and sperm frozen in sperm banks throughout the world.
Everytime a man masterbates or a woman allows an egg to pass through her body naturally they to are killing cells that could become children. if you take this argument to a cellular level then you are accusing every man woman and child who has passed puberty of murder.
You cannot justify your accusation of murder by condeming people who destroy cells because you and most the worlds population are guilty of this.
On top of this you allow every human cell to grow into a human, then laborities around the world will be churning out more babies then Mcdonalds is churning out happy meals. Th world would be over populated in a matter of weeks and thus the end of the human race by starvation. You have just condemned the entire human race to death for its crimes against human cells.

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03-13-2004 2:06 AM


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