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Bolder-dash
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Message 1 of 355 (617023)
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


Another title could be, 'What happens when all of the debaters are gone?" , but I guess we are already getting the answer to that question.

What happens is you end up with topics like, "Atheists have better sex lives", and "What happens after the oil is gone?"

Now that all of the dissenting voices have pretty much disappeared, and there is no one left to debate, as a result of the severely biased and foul moderation policies, is there much left for the site to do? Can it really continue under the present paradigm? I guess if you have enough atheists who simply need a comfortable place to feel at home with their brothers it can.

But seeing as how there really aren't any more debates, because there isn't anyone left who is willing to put up with the nonsense involved in participating in the site, the name might need to be changed.

How many are left, one? Is ICANT the final survivor? A website such as this relies on a variety of ideas from volunteers to give it interesting and stimulating editorial content. Unfortunately the admin hasn't seen fit to be respectful of all voices, and thus he has gotten what he wanted. A soulless echo chamber. Can you hear yourselves?

Is there anything left?


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Message 2 of 355 (617025)
05-25-2011 3:55 PM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Has the bias made this forum essentially irrelevant? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

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Message 3 of 355 (617028)
05-25-2011 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


I dont think bias is the problem i think PRATTS are a problem so many creo ideas have been refuted a gazzilion times that it is better for their belief if they dont visit such sites.

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Message 4 of 355 (617030)
05-25-2011 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


When Are You Leaving?
B writes:

Is there anything left?

Well you are still here.....

I suppose you think we should be thankful........


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Message 5 of 355 (617032)
05-25-2011 4:06 PM


Something we can certainly hope for...
I doubt we will ever be so lucky as to run out of Creationists and Intelligent Design advocates. It would be nice and certainly something to hope for though.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 6 of 355 (617035)
05-25-2011 4:11 PM
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05-25-2011 4:06 PM


Re: Something we can certainly hope for...
I personally would be sad to see all the creationists and IDists vanish from the world. Life's rich pageant and all that. And another source of entertainment would be required.

I'd just have to settle for amusing myself with more sophisticated and harder to pin down theists....


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Message 7 of 355 (617036)
05-25-2011 4:12 PM
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05-25-2011 3:48 PM


I feel it is hard to come up with new topics, there are so many on here already.

I dont see admin being unfair, although I haven't been here that long, maybe you could site a few examples.

Do you have any new, more relevant topics to discuss/debate?


"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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Message 8 of 355 (617038)
05-25-2011 4:13 PM
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05-25-2011 3:48 PM


Now that all of the dissenting voices have pretty much disappeared, and there is no one left to debate, as a result of the severely biased and foul moderation policies, is there much left for the site to do?

I suppose when all the facts are against you all that's left is name calling.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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Message 9 of 355 (617040)
05-25-2011 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


There's no moderator bias, there's a half-dozen creationists we're talking with now, including you, ICANT, Marc9000, and perennial favorite Buzsaw.

If anything, moderator action continues to be harsher against evolutionists than against creationists.


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Message 10 of 355 (617041)
05-25-2011 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


Always More to See
Is there anything left?

There's actually a lot left. This site is more than just Creationism and evolution pitted against each other. There are philosophical discussions, historical discussions, scientific discussions, political discussions, etc.

But seeing as how there really aren't any more debates...

That's not true. At all.

Who designed the ID designer(s)?
Inductive Atheism
Mythology and Belief of Anti-Theism
Reconstructing the Historical Jesus
If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
etc.

Take your pick. I'm sure you can incite a reply.

Jon


Love your enemies!

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Message 11 of 355 (617043)
05-25-2011 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


Bolder-dash writes:

Another title could be, 'What happens when all of the debaters are gone?" , but I guess we are already getting the answer to that question.

What happens is you end up with topics like, "Atheists have better sex lives", and "What happens after the oil is gone?"

Now that all of the dissenting voices have pretty much disappeared, and there is no one left to debate, as a result of the severely biased and foul moderation policies, is there much left for the site to do? Can it really continue under the present paradigm? I guess if you have enough atheists who simply need a comfortable place to feel at home with their brothers it can.

But seeing as how there really aren't any more debates, because there isn't anyone left who is willing to put up with the nonsense involved in participating in the site, the name might need to be changed.

How many are left, one? Is ICANT the final survivor? A website such as this relies on a variety of ideas from volunteers to give it interesting and stimulating editorial content. Unfortunately the admin hasn't seen fit to be respectful of all voices, and thus he has gotten what he wanted. A soulless echo chamber. Can you hear yourselves?

Is there anything left?

The moderators bend over backwards and allow great leeway to Creationists.

It would appear to be that to you, "bias" is defined as "any debate that's not stacked firmly in my favor."

If you don't like the place, feel free to post elsewhere. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. The rest of us are more than happy to continue debating and learning without you.


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Message 12 of 355 (617052)
05-25-2011 4:58 PM


Damn, I sure would like to get someone new to tell about VAAARRRRVES, MATEYS!

Do you want to discuss varves, Bolder? Calmly?


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Message 13 of 355 (617055)
05-25-2011 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


Now that all of the dissenting voices have pretty much disappeared, and there is no one left to debate, as a result of the severely biased and foul moderation policies, is there much left for the site to do?

How are the moderators biased, and what is wrong with the policies?


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Message 14 of 355 (617058)
05-25-2011 5:14 PM
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05-25-2011 3:48 PM


I don't see how you can blame the moderators. You start a thread calling them "foul" and "severely biased" and they promote it for discussion. They're not exactly cramping your style, are they?

Still more willingly would they allow you to whine and lie about evolution, if you were still interested in doing so. Instead you seem to have arrived already at the final stage of creationism in which all you have left is to rage impotently against the people who have so firmly and so frequently handed you your ass.

If you are a fair sample of creationist thought, this might well explain the paucity of creationists willing to man up and discuss the actual issues.


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Message 15 of 355 (617070)
05-25-2011 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
05-25-2011 3:48 PM


Bolder-dash writes:

Is there anything left?


12 responses in a little over 1 hour.
It would appear that the answer to your question is 'Yes'.

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