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Percy, Message 329 in The problems of big bang theory. What are they? Big Bang and Cosmology.
Excellent explanation of why it is futile to try and have a meaningful discussion with some people.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." — Hunter S. Thompson
Author: Jazzns Forum: Bible Study Thread: Do Christians Worship Different Gods? Message #: Message 172
Fucking bravo, Jazz. A post like this, IMO, holds FAR more weight coming from a recent de-convert than ANY long established atheist. You continue to impress with every post.
I would quote a portion, but it's all bloody remarkable.
"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
My friend, if I can easily decipher IamJoseph's message while the rest of you are having difficulties with it is not surprising at all. It does not mean that I endorse his position though. I may not. Yet what he is telling you comes across loud and clear: "You lot can't eat your cake and have it still. If you want to have a universe bounded in time, a universe that started from a singularity, either the creator is implied, or you are peddling a Baron Münchhausen tale." He is saying: "I am a creationist and I admit it openly. You lot are closet creationists, I am helping you out of your closets and I expect thanks instead of the crass ingratitude you exhibit towards me here." He is telling you that he and his Bible are logically consistent where you and your consensus-nonsensus cosmology are not. You know that full well too so hate the guts of the message and scapegoat its style. You see, I can very well understand how much you hate his message and why all you pretend to find in it are the idiosyncrasies of his personal style. No fooling Alfred and his old Cheshire cat with all your futile pretence to science, I am afraid.
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Any use of the term "know" that entails absolute 100% certainty (i.e. the 1 and 7 positions on the Dawkins scale) is misplaced outside of axiomatic systems such as mathematics.
Etc.
Moose
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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
Personally, I do not see it being possible to test any real supernatural aspects that may be in the {exist} set, because in order to properly validate (ie tested, calibrated and known(1)) to produce proper results) such a test you would need bonafide positive and negative results, which would make the whole exercise unnecessary.
This means you can only logically test for the effects of supernatural presence\essence on natural systems that can be tested. Problems here are (a) the strong possibility of false negative results, and (b) results that are confused with and ascribed to natural causes.
Thus we have to work from inference from indirect evidence, rather than direct observation and deduction, and thus we need to practice extreme care not to make premature conclusions, pro or con.
Nice to know that some people read it ... it is long, but the only way I could see making it shorter would be to delete the parts that are responses to the previous post, and turn it into a monologue.
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