Global Warming is a Scam

In all seriousness, I'd like a little bit of a scientific discussion as to why the winter has been so warm and mild.I mean, this is typical fall weather up here in Minnesota. I just cracked my windows and turned my heat off... got too hot out.Is this an expected result of global warming? Or, is this a naturally-occurring weather fluke?JonEdited by Jon, : No reason given.

Thread copied here from the Global Warming is a Scam thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

In my non-expert opinion I'm going to say a bit of both, leaning more towards the fluke. Global temperatures are said to be about a degree warmer than they 'should' be. This might mean some areas are unseasonably warmer by several degrees, but I doubt that it is going to be that noticeable to most people in their everyday weather experience.That said, I think it would mean that flukes will tend towards the warm side rather than the cold side. We're pretty warm this winter here in the UK too (though we're having some hellish winds this week).Edited by Modulous, : changed the subtitle to make more sense, but weaken the already bad pun

The problem with global warming (or global climate change) is that it is a trend. It's impossible to say whether any particular phenomenon, such as a heat wave, or hurricane, is a result of global warming. All we can do is look at the trends. Are there more hurricanes now, are there more heat waves now, are average temperatures higher, lower or much the same than they have been in the past.When you look at trends, you see global warming in action.I'm in Wisconsin, and we're experiencing perhaps the mildest winter I remember. We've had only a couple inches of snow, the temps this week are melting the dusting of snow we currently have, and the Packers are in the playoffs with homefield advantage. Global Warming may remove the Lambeau Field advantage and stop the Packers from making the Super Bowl. Now if that's not a disaster caused by Global Warming, I don't know what is. ;-)

Here in Chicago, it feels like the goddamn spring. And yeah, its a little of both.Notice how during warm winter months like these scientists and climate change proponents aren't saying AHA! But when it gets a little cold all the deniers are going nuts. Deniers have trouble understanding the difference between climate and weather. Its like a mental block that Jesus put in place for them.Anyway, this time last year I was stranded in the city cuz of storm and ended up staying at my mistress's apartment. Did I say that out loud?

In my non-expert opinion, this migh be a case of constructive fluctuations where the ups and downs in two trends meet at the crest of the sine waves.Global warming is not about short term trends over a few months. In other words, it is about climate, not weather. In Idaho where I live the local ski resort has zero snow which is unheard of for this time of year. Other ski resorts in the area opened really late. Our temps have been pretty mild as well, getting to the high 40's last week. At the beginning of the year we were told to expect a La Nina pattern which is usually cooler and wet. We have seen the opposite, more of an El Nino pattern. I think we are seeing fluky weather combined with warmer ocean temps. Again, just my non-expert opinion.

[qs=Taq]At the beginning of the year we were told to expect a La Nina pattern which is usually cooler and wet. We have seen the opposite, more of an El Nino pattern./qs
You know, this is exactly what climatologists have predicted in regard to climate change. One of the affects of climate change is our predictions become less and less accurate because the models were all built based on current or past trends.

Although this thread seems to be that very AHA! moment, just as your snickering response and attitude are. You are not fooling anyone pointing the finger and saying its them, not me. it is you, and as usual, you are busted.

I'd be a bit careful jumping to conclusions on that one.When it gets really cold, I have been known to ask "What happened to global warming, now that we really need it?" However, I am not a denier, and the person I ask is also not a denier. We just like joking around.Edited by nwr, : No reason given.

Actually, no. No one is saying aha, not even the op. Everyone so far has said this is a fluke. Again, climate change deniers tend to say aha when the weather gets top cold. Nobody on this side is saying aha when it comes to unusually warm days. We know better than that.You know, you should brush up on your reading comprehension skill. Or is this one of those Jesus thing again?

suuuurrrre riiiiight whatever you say.::rolls eyes::people only bring this topic up to deny it or to talk smack about it. when its warm in Janurary in the Northern Hemisphere the supports taunt with it (like this thread), and when its cold in October or April, the deniers taunt with it.you pointing it out and saying that Jesus has anything to do with it, is nothing more than trollish behavior, but that is who you are, i guess. another windy city loud mouth.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

I'm referring more to congressman demint's igloo labeled "al gore's new house". Climate change deniers have trouble understanding the difference between climate and weather.

Would you like to give evidence that some here is using the unusually warm weather as support for climate change? Or is this a Jesus thing again?Added by edit.You wanna bring my member rating down to you level?Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

any evidence that jesus has anything to do with what I am saying?you keep asking as if you know what you are trolling about.My evidence is that it is being talked about, as that IS my argument.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

Um, its a question, not a statement or assertion. A simple yes or no would have put this to rest.Again, this thread isn't really using the warm weather to support climate change. If anyone has done so, please quote.I do remember the weather service warning dire weather conditions this year. The fact that they were so off was predicted by climate scientists. Its got to do with the current models getting slightly less accurate each year due to climate change. And since the weather is a chaotic system, small changes can have very large effects.