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bobbins Member (Idle past 3866 days) Posts: 122 From: Manchester, England Joined: |
Found this list compiled by the Human Events Online website recently. They are a "National Conservative Weekly"
Welcome to Our Blog About the Most Prominent Events of the 20th Century These are the ten books: The Communist ManifestoMein Kampf Quotations from Chairman Mao (Little Red Book) The Kinsey Report Democracy and Education Das Kapital The Feminine Mystique The Course of Positive Philosophy Beyond Good and Evil The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money Now I might have a tentative (tentative because I feel that books in themselves cannot be harmful, only the people who blindly follow them)agreement with a couple of these but the rest seem to be reasonable essays on feminism, economics, philosophy, education and sociology. The usual suspects (Nietzsche, Kinsey, Marx) are represented but, unhappily for this forum's purpose, Darwin only hits the top thirty shortlist. Other reasons for inclusion seem to be promoting Govt. spending, not believing in God, increasing thinking skills and opposition to imperialism. Pretty dangerous thoughts there! The reason for this proposed topic is twofold. First, is the list representative of mainly US conservative and Christian thinking? (in other words do you agree). And second, does anybody have alternatives for the list? PNT for the Coffee House I think.
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jar Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The very idea that there are dangerous books is more frightening than the bombings in London, Madrid, the US, Kenya and Tanzania.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Mein Kampf is, perhaps, the one book on this list that I know espouses an ideology that I find repugnant. Yet I can't say that I find the book dangerous.
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mick Member (Idle past 5239 days) Posts: 913 Joined: |
I'm not sure many people actually read Mein Kampf
Mick
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
What I find odd is the inclusion of the last book, which is one of Keyne's work. Some conservatives may not like Keynesian economic policies, but Keynes' ideas are pretty standard mainstream ideas. To list his book as one of the ten most dangerous really indicates just how extreme the compiler of this list really is.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Oh my god! John Stuart Mill's On Liberty made "Honorable Mention". At least we now know these people aren't the libertarian wing of conservatism.
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Phat Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
People should be allowed to read the Satanist Bible, if they wish. (Or perhaps the egyptian book of the dead) I personally disagree with some of the liberal books that elementary schoolkids are allowed to read, like A Way Of Love, A Way Of Life: A Young Person's Introduction To What It Means To Be Gay . Not because i am anti gay so much as because I believe that the state has no right to indoctorinate children on what constitutes "normal' behavior. Many young people are unsure of their feelings, and to propagate such feelings as simply normal and alternative is not the job of the state. The parents and family have this right first.
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CK Member (Idle past 4380 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
anti-gay? Sure you are. What else can be used to describe someone who puts normal in qualifications such as ''s.
I'm not not anti-black but I don't feel it's upto the state to say they are 'equal' to us white people.
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mick Member (Idle past 5239 days) Posts: 913 Joined: |
1. Bible (extremely dangerous book)
2. Koran (extremely dangerous book) 3. Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury (full of dangerous ideas) 4. Complete Shakespeare (very heavy with pointy edges)
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Phat Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
All that I am saying is that it is not up to the state to "inform" my kids that they may be gay and that it is not a worry. The state does not know my child and I do.
Of course, if there was trouble at home and my teen was being rejected or judged by me, my child would have the right to go to a state agengy for help. The difference is that a younger (9-12) year old who is being exposed to a big wide world does NOT need to be taught acceptable morality by a relative bunch of unknowns( the state) when this is the job of family.
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bobbins Member (Idle past 3866 days) Posts: 122 From: Manchester, England Joined: |
What I like with the list is the links to Amazon.com so you can buy the books. Presumably to organise your own bring-and-burn party.
The Ralph Nader book in the shortlist is puzzling. General Motors shareholders perhaps? Apophenia:seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data. Pareidolia:vague or random stimulus being perceived (mistakenly) as recognisable. Ramsey Theoryatterns may exist. Whoops!
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I like their comment on Das Kapital:
[Marx] could not have predicted 21st Century America: a free, affluent society based on capitalism and representative government that people the world over envy and seek to emulate. They shouldn't be so hard on poor Karl. I'm living at the beginning of the 21st century, and I can't make this prediction either. But we still have 95 years to go -- maybe it will come to pass.
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jar Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, Karl did forsee just that and considered such a society as a necessary precursor for a Communist Society.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ringo Member (Idle past 664 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Children need to be taught that society sees gays as normal and equal. If you want to teach your children otherwise, nobody can stop you, just as nobody can stop you from teaching your children to wear white hoods and lynch blacks.
Education is an organ of society as a whole, not just the family. The interests of society as a whole are threatened by book-banning. Your wanting to ban books about gays is no different from banning books containing four-letter words, or banning books containing "unapproved" political ideas. People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.
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