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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel:
Iran lays out legal case for genocidal attack against 'cancerous tumor' Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people. My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously? I know this report is from WND, home of a lot of cranks, but one might ask why this isn't reported elsewhere? Did the Ayatollah say this or not? Does this represent state policy for Iran? And if so, why is it being ignored by the media? Inquiring minds want to know.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
WND, home of a lot of cranks Srsly?!? Is there anyone there who ISN'T a crank? Just asking.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Any response to the threatened genocide of all Jews, everywhere, which is the subject of this thread?
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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My question is, why don't the liberal establishment and the media (but I'm being redundant) take this kind of thing seriously? I know this report is from WND ... Well there you go then. Puzzle solved. Here, by comparison, is an Israeli take on it, from ynetnews, the English language website of Yedioth Ahronoth, Israel's most-read newspaper. Note their ability to distinguish between a weblog and the Iranian government, and between a computer engineer called Forghani and Ayatollah Khamenei, who are actually two different people. But then, they're probably part of the "liberal establishment". And they're definitely part of "the media". Unlike WND, which apparently isn't.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Any response to the threatened genocide of all Jews, everywhere ... ... to be carried out using conventional weapons and within the space of nine minutes, as threatened by a blogger who has no actual weapons. Well, the word pffft comes to mind.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Just bloggers? Well that certainly gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling for those particular Iranian nutcases. No problem then, eh?
I would have thought that calls for global genocide for an entire country and their ethnic group worldwide would have resulted in some condemnation, somewhere. Guess not, eh?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3713 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Coyote writes:
Do you really think that the media should report every nut-job that posts on the internet? I would have thought that calls for global genocide for an entire country and their ethnic group worldwide would have resulted in some condemnation, somewhere. Guess not, eh?If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Do you really think that such a threat, given the rise of anti-Semitism worldwide and particularly in Arab countries, should be just ignored?
Does the term, "Never again!" mean anything to you?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
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Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Just bloggers? Well that certainly gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling for those particular Iranian nutcases. No problem then, eh? While your warm and fuzzy feeling is unjustified, you are right to say that that's not a problem.
I would have thought that calls for global genocide for an entire country and their ethnic group worldwide would have resulted in some condemnation, somewhere. Oh, people are always calling for genocide on the Internet.
Here are Fox News viewers on the internet calling for the murder of all atheists. That doesn't particularly worry me, nor at the time did I bother to condemn it. How 'bout you?
Here are the people who want to kill all the liberals. Though that great humanitarian Rush Limbaugh wants to keep one or two for display purposes. If I condemned all the genocidal lunatics on the Internet I wouldn't have time to look at all the porn.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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The local crazies don't have nukes. The Iranians either have them or are about to get them.
All of this reminds me of the '30s and the apologists for the rise of Hitler and his wretched crew. For some reason liberals never seem to take these kinds of threats seriously. I'm willing to state that those threats of genocide against all Jews worldwide, and the threats to annihilate the state of Israel, deserve condemnation. Are you?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The local crazies don't have nukes. Nor does the blogger. So far, they are on a par. Let's hear some condemnation, then.
The Iranians either have them or are about to get them. And Iranians with nukes would scare the bejeezus out of me, unlike the Iranians with internet access.
All of this reminds me of the '30s and the apologists for the rise of Hitler and his wretched crew. For some reason liberals never seem to take these kinds of threats seriously. Is that meant to explain why the conservative Neville Chamberlain cravenly appeased Hitler when Hitler had a great big Army and kept invading places, or why the liberal Dr A mocked a blogger with no power whatsoever? Only those are actually different kinds of threats. 'Cos one of them isn't a real threat. Oh, and one out of me and the former leader of the Conservative Party is a liberal, see if you can work out which.
I'm willing to state that those threats of genocide against all Jews worldwide, and the threats to annihilate the state of Israel, deserve condemnation. Are you? Yes, certainly. What I'm not going to do is worry about these threats when uttered by someone who might as well be threatening to grow silver wings and fly to the moon. At the very worst they are straws that show which way the wind blows. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Warthog Member (Idle past 3969 days) Posts: 84 From: Earth Joined: |
quote: I agree - we have to keep threats like these in perspective. While the threats may sound the same, the source is the thing to keep in mind. I am no more worried about this than I would be about the neonazis. These groups are trying to get attention for their own beliefs and common way to do that is to scare people. It's great marketing and certain to help spread their name. Works for the fashion industry (you're old/fat/ugly) just as well as for kids marketing (either 'buy this or your kids won't love you' or 'if you don't have/like this, your friends won't like you'). If you can frighten enough bunnies, you can start the spread of panic and your job is done. Of course, the other side to this is genuinely dangerous groups. The rise of Hitler was mentioned and is an excellent example. Al Quaeda is a more modern one. The real trick is that you can never be sure of the assessment until hindsight kicks in. The crazies are only dangerous when they're not really crazies. To be a real threat, a group has to be organised and focused. Hamas is a far greater threat to Israel than our blogger. Of course, the impulse is to be wary of any and all threats but this doomed to failure. All that results is that you spend your time jumping at shadows, thus admitting defeat by default.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3713 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Coyote writes:
Do you really think that the media should report every nut-job that posts on the internet?
Do you really think that such a threat, given the rise of anti-Semitism worldwide and particularly in Arab countries, should be just ignored? Coyote writes:
Yes, it does. Does the term, "Never again!" mean anything to you?But it does not mean that the media has to respond to every nut-job on the internet. You seem to be expecting some kind of global reaction to that blogger's rant.But you don't seem to have an answer for why he is unique amongst nut-jobs and therefore deserves the credibility that media coverage would give. I will ask again in the hope of an actual answer:Do you think that the media should report every nut-job that posts on the internet? If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.0
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For some reason liberals never seem to take these kinds of threats seriously. You pompous sanctimonious arsehole. I spent my Saturday afternoon on the streets of my home city demonstrating against fascism. I saw religious organisations represented. I saw ethnic organisations represented. I saw left-wing organisations - lots of them - represented. I saw not one single right-wing organisation represented. Not one. You seem to think that because, unlike WorldNutDaily, the mainstream media is uninterested in telling lies about lone internet nuttballs, that the left is somehow complacent about fascism. What utter crap. How dare you slander people so casually? The truth is that the WND article was a lie, that the invasion plan had no link to the Iranian government and that all this fuss is over a single scumbag blogger. As a result, WMD went nuts, told some lies, you fell for it and now you're excoriating liberals (your regular bugbear) for not joining you in your stupidity. Well tough. Some of us prefer not to get our panties in a bunch over insipid lie-sites like WND. This isn't about anti-semitiam, Iranian nukes or Israel; it's just another excuse for you to slander "liberals". You are truly pathetic. Mutate and Survive
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