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Taz
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Message 1 of 19 (664452)
05-30-2012 3:47 PM


I'm not talking about singing mermaids who are sexy and beautiful. I'm talking about an ape species that has adopted to marine environment. An aquatic ape species.
For reference, watch these videos of animal documentary.
Coffee House I guess. Also, please don't make sarcastic comments like singing mermaids are impossible and all that shit. I want to know your thoughts on the possibility of an aquatic ape species coexisting with us.

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Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Is it possible for mermaids to exist? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
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Message 3 of 19 (664456)
06-01-2012 6:42 AM
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05-30-2012 3:47 PM


Taz writes:
For reference, watch these videos of animal documentary.
FYI: the 'animal documentary' is a work of fiction.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1816585/combined
But to answer your question:
Possible? Well anything is possible.
Likely? Since there is no evidence of mermaids, I would say no.
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Message 4 of 19 (664457)
06-01-2012 7:06 AM
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Panda writes:
But to answer your question:
Possible? Well anything is possible.
Likely? Since there is no evidence of mermaids, I would say no.
There isn't evidence for life on other planets either. Would you say no to that possibility also?
And with certain parts of the ToE is does seem like anything is possible. With PE and land to sea and sea to land mammals and the various other "transitionals" and "common ancestory" why are you dismissing Taz' question so easily?
Also, for what it's worth. You're posts are getting better. They're getting longer and more involved with content and the debate. It seems you are starting to garner what Straggler said about your potential. Good job.
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Message 5 of 19 (664463)
06-01-2012 7:43 AM
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Chuck77 writes:
There isn't evidence for life on other planets either. Would you say no to that possibility also?
You are confusing "absence of evidence" with "evidence of absence".
We have an absence of evidence of life on 99.999% of other planets because we haven't been able to look.
We have evidence of absence of life on Mars because we have looked and found none.
We have evidence of absence of mermaids on Earth because we have looked and found none.
Chuck77 writes:
And with certain parts of the ToE is does seem like anything is possible. With PE and land to sea and sea to land mammals and the various other "transitionals" and "common ancestory" why are you dismissing Taz' question so easily?
Because there is no evidence.
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Also, for what it's worth. You're posts are getting better. They're getting longer and more involved with content and the debate. It seems you are starting to garner what Straggler said about your potential. Good job.
But, alas, you have reverted back to your original pattern.
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Message 6 of 19 (664471)
06-01-2012 9:03 AM
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05-30-2012 3:47 PM


It is possible we have seen evolution produce water dwelling mammals, like say whales. We also see a common mutation that produces webbed fingers and feet ideal for swimming, there is also a mutation called mermaid syndrome where the feet of the individual are grown together much looking much like a mermaids tail. Its only a question of environmental pressures that would produce such a species.
But i dont think they exists not because it is not possible but because there is no evidence that would warrant the belief in mermaids.
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Message 7 of 19 (664474)
06-01-2012 9:26 AM
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06-01-2012 9:03 AM


frako writes:
We also see a common mutation that produces webbed fingers and feet ideal for swimming, there is also a mutation called mermaid syndrome where the feet of the individual are grown together much looking much like a mermaids tail.
We know about those mutations though, don't we.
The very fact you can provide these things as evidence shows that they exist and we know about them.
But we are not able to provide any evidence of mermaids.
We have no fossils. We have no transitional fossils. We have no corpses. We have no physical evidence at all.
Perhaps there is a biologist here who could answer if it is even possible for anything remotely ape-like becoming fully aquatic?
p.s.
I find it very telling that people rarely talk about mermen.
And any whimsical fantasies about mermaids are tarnished by the fact they would have to be covered in blubber to prevent hypothermia.
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Message 8 of 19 (664475)
06-01-2012 9:32 AM
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05-30-2012 3:47 PM


Aquatic ape hypothesis - Wikipedia
I read a book years ago in my freshman year in college, it was a physical anthro course, the author was Elaine Morgan.
She posited that modern humans have they're beginnings in a beach and water environment.
Did some other primate inhabit the water? Good question, except the fossil record as of yet does not seem to support it.
The Savannah grassland theory still seems to be the accepted theory of where primates began the journey to humanity.

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Message 9 of 19 (664476)
06-01-2012 9:42 AM
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06-01-2012 9:32 AM


There's an old thread about that: Aquatic Ape theory?

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Message 10 of 19 (664478)
06-01-2012 9:54 AM
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06-01-2012 9:42 AM


Yeah, I do not adhere to that theory. I also think that if there was some ancient mermaid race extant or extinct there would be some evidence of it.

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Message 11 of 19 (664489)
06-01-2012 11:42 AM
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06-01-2012 9:54 AM


I also think that if there was some ancient mermaid race extant or extinct there would be some evidence of it.
Umm, there is...
Also, I believe Tom Hanks fell in love with one too. Not sure how accurate that story is though.
- Oni

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Message 12 of 19 (664490)
06-01-2012 11:45 AM
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06-01-2012 9:54 AM


I also think that if there was some ancient mermaid race extant or extinct there would be some evidence of it.
Umm, there is...
Also, I believe Tom Hanks fell in love with one too. Not sure how accurate that story is though.
- Oni
PS. You're welcome anyone who's stoned right now watching the Little Mermaid video
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Message 13 of 19 (664519)
06-01-2012 3:51 PM


WTF?
Has anyone really examined the body of the widely-distributed mainstream media's version of a mermaid? Just how is a human male suppose to be able to have intercourse if below her narrow waistline she is always depicted as a scaly fish (ouch!). Just where in her anatomy is the way? Is his fate always going to be with the upper half (not that that would be that bad for some)?

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Message 14 of 19 (667127)
07-03-2012 10:57 AM


The US government steps in...
"No evidence of mermaids, says US government"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18692830
"The National Ocean Service made the unusual declaration in response to public inquiries following a TV show on the mythical creatures.
It is thought some viewers may have mistaken the programme for a documentary."
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Message 15 of 19 (667194)
07-03-2012 6:00 PM
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07-03-2012 10:57 AM


Re: The US government steps in...
"The National Ocean Service made the unusual declaration in response to public inquiries following a TV show on the mythical creatures.
It is thought some viewers may have mistaken the programme for a documentary."

Reminds me of the Spaghetti Tree hoax.
I happened to watch that Mermaid show and I could tell that it was a hoax almost immediately. The supposed experts were obviously actors (or biologists doing a bad acting job), not biologists reporting factual evidence.
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