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Percy
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Message 1 of 103 (677313)
10-29-2012 7:26 AM


This is a thread for discussion of things like how unChristian foreveryoung is, and how evil those discussing with foreveryoung are.

--Percy


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Message 2 of 103 (677316)
10-29-2012 7:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
10-29-2012 7:26 AM


Percy writes:

This is a thread for discussion of things like how unChristian foreveryoung is, and how evil those discussing with foreveryoung are.


If FEY posts self-conflicting junk in a thread, then he deserves the replies he gets.

But I do not think we should have a free-for-all thread which encourages people to post abuse at FEY, though.


"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Larni
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Message 3 of 103 (677319)
10-29-2012 8:03 AM


Arn't there several threads where this is already going on?

It might be nice to have it all in one place, though.


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


  
Percy
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Message 4 of 103 (677325)
10-29-2012 8:27 AM


I don't think this is an ideal solution, but I'm participating in threads with ForEverYoung and so cannot moderate. Maybe Free For All is a better venue, but anyway, I put it here in Coffee House, and maybe the off-topic diversions in other threads can now move here.

In my moderator role I place a great deal of emphasis on rule 10 about not personalizing the debate, but ForEverYoung seems to embrace making himself the center of discussion while making many cringe-worthy pronouncements about both people and his religion, so given this trait maybe dedicating a thread to letting him do this is a good idea.

--Percy


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Message 5 of 103 (677326)
10-29-2012 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Percy
10-29-2012 8:27 AM


I'll grant he seems not to know much about the Bible.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Message 6 of 103 (677327)
10-29-2012 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
10-29-2012 7:26 AM


Discussions
Percy writes:

This is a thread for discussion of things like how unChristian foreveryoung is, and how evil those discussing with foreveryoung are.

Public gossip writ large. I have no comments at this point, unless foreveryoung himself joins the discussion.

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CosmicChimp
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Message 7 of 103 (677335)
10-29-2012 9:48 AM


The thing I like best about FEY is that there is a piece of what abounds in him, in all of us. We just have to know more clearly what it is, so that we can find it in ourselves (and hopefully limit its influence). I still have a great deal of hope for people like him because they keep trying. They show a tenacity, fervor and dedication that can often be advantageous. Finding pearls in oysters, who'd a thunk it.

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Message 8 of 103 (677338)
10-29-2012 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by CosmicChimp
10-29-2012 9:48 AM


I'm sure that University will burn most of his youthful conviction out of him.

Isn't that what University is for?


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Message 9 of 103 (677340)
10-29-2012 10:02 AM


An open message to foreveryoung
(Note: I am not at all sure that this thread is a good idea. But, given that the thread is here, I shall try to make good use of it).

First, let me make clear that I don't hate you. If anything, I kind of like you. I think there's a decent person in there somewhere, hiding behind that external angry look.

You did not like what I wrote in Message 187 (the other thread). I did not expect you to like it. However, I was not trying to publicly humiliate you. I was trying to draw your attention to how you come across. I tried to make the same point, in a different way, in Message 194.

The thing to remember is that you can influence more people, more effectively, by setting a good example yourself. And you will probably live a happier life that way, too.

In any case, I could not publicly humiliate you, even if I wanted to. I do not know who you are, apart from your evcforum persona. Maybe you are my next door neighbor, or maybe you live half way around the world from me. There is no way that I could tell. You are probably somewhere in USA, but even that is a guess.

The Internet brings out the worst in people. I think it is the anonymity. So we see anger being poured out on the Internet by people who are probably much nicer in real life. I assume that is part of what is happening in your case. You are probably a lot less angry in real life than you are on the Internet. I am trying to encourage you to tone down your Internet persona to something more like the kind of person that you are in real life.

Incidentally, I don't care at all what your religious views are. Those are up to you. But I would like to see the decent person come out, instead of the angry young man that we are seeing in your posts.

By the way, if you happen to be a neighbor, then drop me a note and we can get together over a coffee at some time.

And, finally, a note about Theodoric. I don't think he hates you. He is a bit of a stickler for details and evidence. He has pressed me to support my claims in the past, and will probably do so in the future. But I don't read enmity into that, and neither should you. I'd say that he is a pretty fair minded person, and that if you post something that he thinks is of value, he will give you cheers for that.


Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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CosmicChimp
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Message 10 of 103 (677341)
10-29-2012 10:03 AM
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10-29-2012 9:58 AM


My Anthropology Prof. called it acculturation. And yes, what you say is most definitely true. Is he going to Uni? That would be fantastic! Better yet would be if he took Bio 101.

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Message 11 of 103 (677380)
10-29-2012 1:16 PM
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10-29-2012 10:02 AM


Re: An open message to foreveryoung
I don't think he hates you. He is a bit of a stickler for details and evidence.

Anyone can make claims and assertions. The proof is in the pudding if the person can back those up with facts and evidence. If they cannot then the argument is worthless and should be pointed out as such

FY makes lots of pronouncements and assertions. As of yet he has provided very little evidence. When pressed for evidence he lashes out with attacks, some personal, some at groups. If he can't back up his shit he shouldn't post it.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 12 of 103 (677381)
10-29-2012 1:18 PM
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10-29-2012 10:03 AM


Bio 101, PoliSci 101, Economics 101, Religion 101, Christianity 101, English 101, Finance 101

Hell he needs basic classes in just about everything but probably Geology.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Percy
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Message 13 of 103 (677398)
10-29-2012 2:22 PM
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10-29-2012 1:18 PM


I thought his major was geology.

--Percy


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Message 14 of 103 (677400)
10-29-2012 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Percy
10-29-2012 2:22 PM


Me too. That is why I am assuming he doesn't need 101 classes in that one subject.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 15 of 103 (677407)
10-29-2012 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Theodoric
10-29-2012 2:27 PM


Me too. That is why I am assuming he doesn't need 101 classes in that one subject.

I noticed the ambiguity:

He needs basic classes in just about everything, but probably Geology.

He needs basic classes in just about everything but, probably, Geology.


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