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# inverse square a function of logarithmic perception -i/x^2

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Larry Hanawalt
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 Message 1 of 5 (711996) 11-25-2013 12:10 PM

I once had an experience of light as constituted by equal and opposite exponentials. The second derivative of the complex exponential function (-e^(ix)) and the second derivative of the complex logarithmic function (-i/z^2) seem to provide an analogy.
i*ln''(z) = -i/z^2 (as the location of the observer, the model-maker, the measurer) provides the inverse square relationship that we attribute to gravity--"gravity" a function of perception, not force? (The Weber-Fechner Law and other evidence support the idea that all perception might be logarithmic.)
It's crazy, I know--but it would eliminate the need for dark energy and dark matter. And a complex exponential "space" viewed from a complex logarithmic perspective ("time") would give us a flat, steady-state rather than an exponentially expanding universe.
The flat, steady-state aspect is indicated mathematically by the fact that the real number line is the real part of minus i/z^2...the real number line representing a mean between exponential and logarithmic curves.http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=i+ln%27%27%28z%29
(It would also be an anti-entropic universe. All a very hard sell. But since the current macro-model doesn't work, there may be some tolerance for crazy. At this point I just want to see if the model works mathematically.)

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 Message 2 of 5 (712006) 11-25-2013 3:29 PM Reply to: Message 1 by Larry Hanawalt11-25-2013 12:10 PM

Unqualified
I am certainly not qualified to judge this to decide to promote it or not. I'll have to leave it to other admins.

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 Message 3 of 5 (712015) 11-25-2013 5:16 PM Reply to: Message 1 by Larry Hanawalt11-25-2013 12:10 PM

Larry Hanawalt writes:
I once had an experience of light as constituted by equal and opposite exponentials.
Really? Did you get a sunburn?
The second derivative of the complex exponential function (-e^(ix)) and the second derivative of the complex logarithmic function (-i/z^2) seem to provide an analogy.
The 2nd derivative of -eix is eix, while that of -i/z2 is 0. How is that an analogy to anything about light?
You seem to be speaking in gobbledygook and I suspect you're a quack. Can you explain this in terms laypeople can understand, and also how it relates to the creation/evolution debate? I also see you've posted the identical message to ScienceForums.net. If you're not really a quack then that might be a better venue for what you want to discuss.

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Larry Hanawalt
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 Message 4 of 5 (712068) 11-26-2013 4:42 PM Reply to: Message 3 by Admin11-25-2013 5:16 PM

matter, antimatter and e^ix + 1 = 0
Percy, thanks. I suppose it's possible that I am a crank. (I love the wikipedia crank page.) I'll start in a different place and stop quickly. If you suggest that I cease and desist on this Forum, I will.
Euler's e^iz + 1 = 0 indicates a rate of change that is equal and opposite in sign to the instantaneous rate of change. The "deceleration" is a mirror image--a tangent to the unit circle that is pointed in the opposite direction from the function's rate of change.
It seems to me that the matter/antimatter mirror image might be considered to have this e^ix + 1 = 0 mathematical relationship.
(Suppose that the matter/antimatter model involves representing a non-dual phenomenon as a duality.)
I'll stop there for a comment. Be gentle.

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 Message 5 of 5 (712092) 11-26-2013 10:04 PM Reply to: Message 4 by Larry Hanawalt11-26-2013 4:42 PM

Re: matter, antimatter and e^ix + 1 = 0
Sorry, Larry, makes no sense to me, so little I can't even give you feedback about how to help me. It sounds like nonsense to me, and I'm usually a pretty good judge. Plus it doesn't seem related to the creation/evolution debate.
Feel free to try to explain it in terms I might understand, but be careful not to waste your time. I'm not going to promote a topic I don't understand, no matter how sincere and effortful you are.
In the meantime, please participate as much as you like in any of the existing discussion threads.

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