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Faith Member  Posts: 32166 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
UPDATE: I've changed the title of the thread from my original "Request for Thread on Geology of Oil" to the title Petrophysics put on his post #3 since it looks like this may remain the thread where the topic gets discussed. I don't think it should, I only meant to be requesting that others start a thread on the subject, but it's retitled for now anyway. ============================= Some time back I noticed that salt beds seem to be frequently associated with oil deposits and if nothing else I'd like to know if there's a reason for that association if anyone knows and can explain it. Otherwise I'd like to see someone start a thread on the general subject of how principles of Geology are useful for finding oil. Thanks. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Coragyps Member Posts: 5396 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I'm not a geology expert, but I do make my living from the exploitation of oil and gas deposits. Rox and Petrophysics, will you watch by back if I jump off into this?
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petrophysics1 Inactive Member |
I'm game, but a word of caution here. Classes in things like coastal depositional environments, or fluvial or deltaic systems are taught in a university at the graduate level. Which means we would be talking to degreed geologists with a background in geology, math, physics and chemistry. I am willing to cover your back and can provide actual examples of oil and gas prospects I have drilled over the years. I do not know if the average person will understand them. All I can do here is try. Understand that for close to 30 years I have used my knowledge of petroleum geology to earn an income which kept me in the upper 2% of U.S. income earners with some occasional good years where I made it into the upper 1%. What I do works! What Faith and other YECs do is a joke, and doesn't work. Here is my resume just so you will know who is covering your back. BTW I got those college grades while working to support myself full time and also going to school full time Not much time for sleep... I once stayed awake from 5 AM Saturday till 7 PM Friday, it was a finals week in spring of '77.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1093 days)  Posts: 1493 From: Nevada Joined: |
In all honesty, I hope everyone has the time because this will be a technically-intensive topic to cover. In the past when I've posted a more technically advanced argument, Faith has not understood it at all. In fact, Faith has had significant difficulty understanding basic geologic principles... mostly because she doesn't believe them, but that's also a problem. Because of this, I feel that perhaps the best way for this topic to proceed would be to follow Dr. A's template in his Intro to Geology thread where he introduced specific topics, allowed for clarifying questions, and debating (per se) was prohibited. If Faith seriously wants to learn about this topic, allowing Cora and/or others to present the process and theory behind it first, is a necessity. Getting bogged down with arguments after the first post will hinder the stated purpose of the thread. After Cora is satisfied with what has been introduced, then the debating can begin. But seriously, where do you start? All I know is that all mineral deposits, particularly oil/gas, are intimately connected to stratigraphy and structure. You almost have to start with Sedimentology, then move onto Stratigraphy, Sequence Stratigraphy, structure, etc. Yikes.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1093 days) Posts: 1493 From: Nevada Joined: |
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Coragyps Member Posts: 5396 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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Submerged in work - I will kick this off eventually.
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Faith Member Posts: 32166 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Bump. Just wondering.
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Coragyps Member Posts: 5396 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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I'm wondering, too - but will try to start this evening with the Horseshoe Atoll. It's 6500 feet below my chair. It's oily.
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petrophysics1 Inactive Member
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Faith, Shortly after you posted I got a call to consult on 4 wells near Watford City, ND. 2 Bakken and 2 Three Forks lateral wells all being drilled to about 22,000 feet. I expect to be here till late April or early May. I've been here since Feb 18. However I have given this some thought and after considering three or four different approaches I think I have come up with a way to approach it that I think may work to explain it to someone who knows nothing about geology. I am a bit busy as I have to describe over 60,00 feet of rocks, make many decisions on the fly and write it all up along with numerous diagrams. It's kind of like writing a novel with numerous illustrations in 2 months. BTW I think about you when I'm drilling through all the salt and anhydrite deposits up here in the Williston Basin........you can't make evaporates in a flood.
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Taq Member  Posts: 7971 Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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quote: I think it is important to mention that Morton started out as a YEC. He was a contributor to papers written for the ICR, the lead YEC group. After being exposed to the evidence in the field of geology, he simply could not hold that position any longer. In that essay, he also discusses evidence that he discovered in his work, such as buried eroded mountains and river systems in seismic imaging.
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Coragyps Member Posts: 5396 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I'm still covered up with work, Faith, with not much end in sight. Good intentions, and all that.... Petrophysics, scenic Watford City, eh? Our company is nearly finished setting up in Killdeer. That's part of the work that is covering me up.
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Faith Member Posts: 32166 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I just saw these posts on this thread, thanks very much for reporting on your situation and I look forward to your presentation here when you are finally able to get to it.
Of course not, they had to have formed afterward. But that's one of the phenomena I hope you will explain, why salt is so frequently found in the vicinity of oil deposits. But of course it's nice to be thought of. I guess. (But I don't want to make this into a debate thread, I really do just want to hear about how oil deposits are discovered.) Thanks again. By the way I don't suppose you operate in Canada do you? I have a part interest through my family in the mineral rights to a piece of land in an oil-producing area. Probably nothing there or they'd have drilled already but oh well. (yes, of course I expect you to know how to find oil deposits.) Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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