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dronestar
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Message 1 of 29 (723619)
04-04-2014 11:46 AM


Maybe a dull-witted topic . . .

A pet peeve of mine is when politician's names are used for buildings, airports, aircraft carriers, coins, blah blah. So self-serving, especially galling when named after war criminals like:

Ronald Reagan National Airport
USS Ronald Reagan

So instead of politicians, I'd suggest only people who represent the most vulnerable, or oppressed minorities: Blacks, women, native americans, gays.

The Sacajawea dollar coin was/is a great idea (native american and a woman. Too bad she wasn't also a black lesbian!). I would be happy to see all our coins changed to native americans. How can we get any more american than that?

And people who represent critical thinking: scientists and educators.

George Washington Carver? Too soon for Carl Sagan to be used?

1. Comments?

2. If america came out with a two-dollar coin, who would you like to see selected?


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Message 2 of 29 (723623)
04-04-2014 12:18 PM
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04-04-2014 11:46 AM


I spell them "loonie" and "toonie". If we come out with a five-dollar coin, I advocate calling it the "foonie".

I also support the sentiment expressed by one of our foremost comedians, "Save the mad cow but get her picture off our money." I have nothing against Queen Elizabeth but if we have to have a foreigner on our money it should be somebody like Nelson Mandela.

I hereby go on record predicting that when Queen Elizabeth dies we will never have another British monarch on our money.

Some Canadians I would recommend to replace her:

  • Dr. Norman Bethune, our most famous Communist (we could call his coin the "bethoonie")
  • Terry Fox (the "foxie")
  • Dr. Lucille Teasdale-Corti (the "lucie")

I'm sure Americans have some likely candidates too, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. comes to mind (the "martie").


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dronestar
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Message 3 of 29 (723630)
04-04-2014 12:45 PM
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04-04-2014 12:18 PM


RingO writes:

I spell them "loonie" and "toonie".

For the non-Canadian, southern US population, and world population, perhaps I should have shown a picture of the Canadian coin, from which we get the name "loonie" from:

The "toonie" (TWO-ney) is the two dollar version of the loonie.

I still think we should name the american coin "looney."

Yeah, to me, the monarchy is just as bad as politicians. I wonder if the British feel the same about Queen Elizabeth on money as you.

Okay, I had to do some googling:

Henry Norman Bethune (March 4, 1890 – November 12, 1939) was a Canadian physician, medical innovator, and noted Anti-fascist. So placing a communist on an american coin would cause the entire american population to go apoplectic. Therefore, I would second the motion. However, using a white male gets you two debits.

Terry Fox, there are not too many famous Terrys (O'Reilly, Gilliam, Bradshaw, Jones, Sawchuk), so a good pick. But, instead of the name "foxie", I'd go with "Terryoonie", more pizzazz. However, using a white male gets you two debits.

Lucille Teasdale-Corti, CM GOQ (January 30, 1929 – August 1, 1996) was a Canadian physician, surgeon and international aid worker, who worked in Uganda and contributed to the development of medical services in the country. A quick google search shows an amazing life story, okay good pick.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. A no-brainer, I should have included him in my original post.

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Message 4 of 29 (723632)
04-04-2014 12:58 PM
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04-04-2014 12:45 PM


dronester writes:

I still think we should name the american coin "looney."


You could put Reagan on it. Republicans could call it the "Ronnie" and Democrats could call it the "loonie".

How about Sitting Bull? I once saw an aboriginal woman wearing a sweatshirt with a picture of Sitting Bull and the caption, "My heroes have always killed cowboys." Call it the "bullie".


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Message 5 of 29 (723633)
04-04-2014 1:00 PM
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04-04-2014 11:46 AM


war criminals like:

Ronald Reagan

Are there any presidents that you don't think were war criminals?


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Message 6 of 29 (723635)
04-04-2014 1:17 PM
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CS writes:

Are there any presidents that you don't think were war criminals?

quote:
If the standards of the Nuremberg trials were applied then every post-World War II American president would have been hanged as a war criminal.

Noam Chomsky



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Message 7 of 29 (723647)
04-04-2014 11:12 PM
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04-04-2014 12:58 PM


You could put Reagan on it ...

Better idea ... put him on a penny and bump everyone else up a notch. (Lincoln to nickle, Jefferson to dime, etc).

Then downsize it.


kidding aside ...

Be radical and

Replace the nickle with a three-pence ...

Replace quarter & half dollar with a 30 cent coin, have a $3 bill instead of $5, $30 instead of $50, etc

Now you have some new currency to face. And name.

Civil rights (Parks, King), womens rights (sufferagettes), indian rights, migrant workers, irish immigrants and unions ...

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Message 8 of 29 (723648)
04-04-2014 11:36 PM
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04-04-2014 11:46 AM


Your money's worth
dronester writes:

If america came out with a two-dollar coin, who would you like to see selected?

The Unknown Soldier.

He was only worth two bits at the time, but two bucks should do it now.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 9 of 29 (723672)
04-05-2014 3:12 PM
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2. If america came out with a two-dollar coin, who would you like to see selected?

George Carlin

...or Hulk Hogan

- Oni


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Message 10 of 29 (723687)
04-05-2014 8:24 PM
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04-05-2014 3:12 PM


cold cash
George Carlin

...or Hulk Hogan

- Oni

After reading your post I reconsidered dead soldiers and decided I want death's-heads on every bill. Little bat-faced memento mori chittering in our pockets to keep it real.

Made me think of The Delicate, Plummeting Bodies, by Stephen Dobyns. Here's the part that came to mind; the title links to the whole poem.

quote:
At last a committee of businessmen met together,
because with Death gone money had no value.
They went to where Death was waiting in a white room,
and he sat on the floor and looked like a small boy
with pale blond hair and eyes the color of clear water.
In his lap was a red ball heavy with the absence of life.
The businessmen flattered him. We will make you king,
they said. I am king already, Death answered. We will
print your likeness on all the money of the world.
It is there already, Death answered. We adore you
and will not live without you, the businessmen said.
Death said, I will consider your offer.

So I'm thinking Hulk, not George.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 11 of 29 (723736)
04-07-2014 8:57 AM
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RAZD writes:

Better idea ... put [Reagan] on a penny and bump everyone else up a notch. (Lincoln to nickle, Jefferson to dime, etc).

Then downsize it.

Hah! Instead of calling the Reagan coin a "nickel," let's call it a "trickle."

RAZD writes:

Replace the nickle with a three-pence ...

I think you are channeling Captain T. Spaulding:

quote:
Captain T. Spaulding (Groucho): The nickel today is not what it was fifteen years ago. Do you know what this country needs today? A seven cent nickel. Yes siree, we've been using the five-cent nickel in this country since 1492. Now why not give the seven cent nickel a chance? If that works out, next year we can have an eight cent nickel. Think what that would mean? You could go to a newsstand, buy a three cent newspaper, and get the same nickerl back again. One nickel carefully used would last a family a life-time.

Groucho Marx (from Animal Crackers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0K3QtU-iNM


For women's rights, we already had the Susan B. Anthony dollar. What happened to that? I like your idea about representing unions, any body in particular?


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Message 12 of 29 (723737)
04-07-2014 9:00 AM
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Oni writes:

George Carlin

...or Hulk Hogan

No Chuck Norris?

"The coin tough enough to beat back inflation"?


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Message 13 of 29 (723738)
04-07-2014 9:01 AM
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Hah! Instead of calling the Reagan coin a "nickel," let's call it a "trickle."

Ha I love it!

I think you are channeling Captain T. Spaulding:

That old Marxist!!!


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Message 14 of 29 (723759)
04-07-2014 4:30 PM
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04-04-2014 1:17 PM


If the standards of the Nuremberg trials were applied then every post-World War II American president would have been hanged as a war criminal.
Noam Chomsky

Post-WW II? That's it?

You are not going to count the presidents who oversaw the relocation and genocide of America's indigenous populations? I think that would be all of the Pre-WW II presidents.


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Message 15 of 29 (723760)
04-07-2014 4:32 PM


In Hitch We Trust
I vote for Christopher Hitchens, with "In Reason We Trust" as a slogan. I just want to laugh at the ultra-conservatives frothing at the mouth.

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