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homunculus
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Message 1 of 2 (508178)
05-11-2009 6:45 AM


Everything has a source. Everything has a cause. Everything has a design that drives a system. Everything serves a design, a cause, a purpose.
There are two systems of perspective that interpret the world two opposite ways.
The secular humanist mentality and the providential mentality.
The humanistic mentality is driven by and founded on the principles of growth, new ideas, unfolding, change, progressive life. The philosophy of humanism is naturalism and the science stance is evolution. Humanism views the universe and life as self existing, without ideology or standardized design.
Humanism, consequently, views humanity as just another animal and share in the same common wealth as all animals and the earth awhole. The subjective movement (sometimes is called progressive change) of life is always "moving forward", growing from the simple to the complex, small to big, dumb to intelligent. Always growing, always changing. Humanity, as a result, is viewed as having not been 'human' in the past and will transform into something non-human in the future.
There are principles, insisted upon, that humanism, naturalism and evolution are dependent upon.
First, The evolving life and ultimately the evolving human.
Second, spontaneous generation of life, alien life and ultimately intelligent alien life.
Third, synchronized harmonious cooperation between the body's impulses and the will and reason of the mind.
Fourth, utter denial of design and systematic workings of systems and relationships to succeed, Ultimately denying physical, mental and metaphysical ideologies.
Fifth, identifying the biological progression of genetic information and production of genetic hereditary resources assimilated into a growing pool of raw, new genetic resources.
Providentialism, is driven and founded on the principles of identifying a source for matter, energy and life, ideology and standardized systems and relationships, objective life. The philosophy of providentialism is spirituality and theism and the science stance is creation. Providentialism views the universe and life as created and coming from a supernatural source, befitting a design and systematic ruling of natural laws and elemental existence of 'construction' and 'destruction'.
Providentialism, consequently, identifies the source of matter, energy and life as; not being bound by time, having the ability to design and construct the universe, having the resources to design and construct the universe and having the will to design and construct the universe.
Providentialism views life and humanity as being, advertently, planned and designed, as the universe. The spectrum of quality of life is held to the highest ethic and value as life and thriving life is the drive and design of the world. Providentialism identifies the discerning of life from death, The positive from the negative, the constructive from the destructive.
Adherence to favor of the constructive elements and constructive living in the systematic world is pertinent. Providentialism views destructive forces as pain, suffering and death as alien and unwelcome elements. The objective movement of life is fitting to ideal systems and conditions for ideal existence. Providentialism views destructive and negative elements as accredited to not meeting the design, not following the precepts of standard existence systematics, Identifying a corruption in the system, identifying the cause of suffering and death in the universe.
There are principles, insisted upon, that providentialism, theism and creation depend upon.
First, Identifying principles of biological ideology and physical reductions back to the 'source'.
Second, progressive biological transformation and physical evolution not taking place.
Third, spontaneous generation or abiogenesis not taking place.
Fourth, intelligent and simple alien life not existing.
Fifth, Identifying duality and contradiction between the impulsive, indulgent flesh body and the will of mind, which discerns the constructive and destructive elements of the world.
Sixth, Identifying the biological recession of genetic information and reduction of hereditary lineage drawn from a barriered pool of genetic resources in which to draw pre-existing information.
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evolution, as it is, cannot be a product of providential mindset. Let me explain, The universe, if self existing, would have to be able to forge a progressive biological system, that would result in the life we see today. Something simple, being engineered from basic chemistry and non-organic materials, would have to participate in a system of continuous replication, growth and assimilation of new materials for change.
The idea that everything exists in its present state, from a self existing system, having been originated in their present state, by strict natural processes, is not only contradictory on every level, but ridiculous.
The trouble is that the evidence outlaws common ancestry of all life and fails to give account for basic precepts of science. 1) the evidence does not imply the origin of matter, energy, life, elemental designation, physical laws, metaphysical laws or design. 2) The question of where the resources came from to engineer and construct the universe is not ensued.
Though these things are not known, they are certain. There is a source for the universe, and everything in it. The resources used to construct the universe had to have existed before the universe. We KNOW 4 things about such a source.
1) It had to have the ability to make the universe
2) It had to have the resources to make the universe
3) It had to be driven to make the universe
4) It is not bound by time
humanity is not bound or limited by natural law or standard. Humanity controls their own path and destiny. Humanity has no limit to his growth and potential.
If the universe is self-existing, it has to be eternal and infinite.
It is not, it has boundaries, it is limited, it had a beginning and inevitably has an ending.
Therefore, the source of the universe, ultimately, has to be eternal and infinite. without boundaries, without limitation.
Every atomic element in the world can be found in the human body, everything from mercury to gold to potassium. This is not a trait shared by another living thing, a genetic barrier that makes common ancestry impossible. Every atomic element known can be found in the earth, no other planet or star, known, shares this trait. This either means the earth is the oldest body, known, or, it is a cosmic body of incredible rate of nucleosynthesis or "stellar evolution", or it is the result of a pre-designated mechanism.

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Message 2 of 2 (508198)
05-11-2009 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by homunculus
05-11-2009 6:45 AM


Needs a little off the top
You've written a bit too much without actually supporting anything you say. I suggest you cut this down to about 1/2 to 1/3 of what you have hear and then add support for your position.
For example you make this assertion:
Everything has a source. Everything has a cause. Everything has a design that drives a system. Everything serves a design, a cause, a purpose.
But supply no reason why anyone should accept it as true.
If you can cut your basic point down to a few lines then offer a few lines to show that you actually can support it we might have an ok opening post.
You also make statements (apparently, this isn't easy to read) about evolutionary biology. It maybe that you can make all of that a completely separate topic and leave it out of your explanation of providentialism here.
Speaking for myself, this is not promotable as it stands but thanks for heroic try.

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