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RAZD
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Message 1 of 138 (773330)
11-29-2015 10:53 PM


Recognizing other religions and beliefs is not a war on Christianity, it is recognizing freedom of religion applies to everyone.

Enjoy

And have a happy Yuletide Solstice Celebration of your choice.


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Tangle
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Message 2 of 138 (773332)
11-30-2015 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
11-29-2015 10:53 PM


Charlie Brown is, of course, always right.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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ringo
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Message 3 of 138 (773350)
11-30-2015 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
11-29-2015 10:53 PM


One of my (religious) relatives posted on Facebook that we should keep Christ in Christmas by feeding the hungry, etc.

Edited by ringo, : No reason given.


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Jon
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Message 4 of 138 (773369)
11-30-2015 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
11-29-2015 10:53 PM


Nobody has ever considered other people celebrating their own holidays as a 'War on Christmas'.

What has been regarded as such a war are the repeated efforts by bafoons like you to erase all traces of Western culture and identity in the guise of 'recognizing other religions and beliefs'.

For example, by stealing the creative work of someone who meant to communicate their beliefs on the meaning of Christmas and rewriting it to promote your own sick anything-goes Multiculturalism.


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RAZD
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Message 5 of 138 (773382)
11-30-2015 4:59 PM
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11-30-2015 1:50 PM


For example, by stealing the creative work of someone who meant to communicate their beliefs on the meaning of Christmas and rewriting it to promote your own sick anything-goes Multiculturalism.

Let me fix that for you:

For example, by stealing the creative work of other faiths (norse, etc) meant to communicate their beliefs on the meaning of winter solstice and rewriting it to promote their sick anything-goes Christianity.

There is absolutely no reason for christians to celebrate winter solstice (which was December 25th) ... none. (cue manufactured reason ... ).

More accurate, ergo more better.


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RAZD
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Message 6 of 138 (773383)
11-30-2015 5:04 PM
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11-30-2015 11:04 AM


One of my (religious) relatives posted on Facebook that we should keep Christ in Christmas by feeding the hungry, etc.

And there is nothing wrong with that, nor providing shelter for the homeless ... but why only one day of the year? Isn't the Christian gospel\faith\message all about doing that year-round?


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Message 7 of 138 (773394)
11-30-2015 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by RAZD
11-30-2015 4:59 PM


There is absolutely no reason for christians to celebrate winter solstice ...

And they don't.

More accurate, ergo more better.

Huh? The purpose of the cartoon isn't to be 'accurate' but to communicate the thoughts of its creator(s).

Rewriting that scene to make the characters say something else is no less a war on that culture than ISIS' destruction of archaeological sites is a war on the cultural heritage of the Middle East.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 8 of 138 (773395)
11-30-2015 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Jon
11-30-2015 1:50 PM


Nobody has ever considered other people celebrating their own holidays as a 'War on Christmas'.

Oh, c'mon, it's a War On Christmas if Starbucks isn't celebrating Christmas hard enough ... before Thanksgiving.

What has been regarded as such a war are the repeated efforts by bafoons like you to erase all traces of Western culture and identity ...

So, imaginary stuff that makes paranoid people hysterical? Y'know, that's just what I've always said.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 9 of 138 (773396)
11-30-2015 8:51 PM
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11-30-2015 8:02 PM


Rewriting that scene to make the characters say something else is no less a war on that culture than ISIS' destruction of archaeological sites is a war on the cultural heritage of the Middle East.

Mad people are funny.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 10 of 138 (773908)
12-10-2015 2:48 PM


Once again, the Onion nails it.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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caffeine
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Message 11 of 138 (773912)
12-10-2015 3:22 PM
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11-30-2015 8:02 PM


Rewriting that scene to make the characters say something else is no less a war on that culture than ISIS' destruction of archaeological sites is a war on the cultural heritage of the Middle East.

I find the absurdity of this comment mildly offensive. Since causing me mild offence is no less am attack of my sense of well-being than breaking into my home, shooting off my kneecaps and then pissing in my mouth as I howl in agony, I have alerted the police already.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 12 of 138 (773917)
12-10-2015 4:29 PM



What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 13 of 138 (773931)
12-11-2015 3:05 AM
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12-10-2015 2:48 PM


LOL, the Onion is comedic genius

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Message 14 of 138 (773932)
12-11-2015 3:08 AM
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11-30-2015 8:02 PM


Rewriting that scene to make the characters say something else is no less a war on that culture than ISIS' destruction of archaeological sites is a war on the cultural heritage of the Middle East.

But who bastardized what? Christmas is historically an amalgamation of different pagan beliefs that were Christianized by Constantine and other early Christian figures. So are you saying the culture terrorists are the Christians themselves?


"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 15 of 138 (773934)
12-11-2015 6:16 AM
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11-30-2015 8:02 PM


In my native language Christmas is Joulu and in Swedish it is Jul. In German the same event is Weihnacht.

We are Western democracies and according to you we are erasing what exactly...? It is so Anglo-centric to cry about removing Christ from Christmas.

Our celebrating during the time of winter solstice is exectly our own - we don´t dance around totems nor do we celebrate alleged birth of any fictional characters. Some people do and it is just fine so - if it takes a religious holiday for a family to spend time together, excellent.


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