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Tangle
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Message 1 of 12 (839908)
09-18-2018 12:38 PM


Why is the Recently Raptured Faith gone into summation? And why can I not summate?

Why no warning?


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 2 of 12 (839928)
09-19-2018 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
09-18-2018 12:38 PM


Summary About Summation
I put it there because the time had come and gone and Faith was still here. I thought that a new topic would better represent the current state of affairs...however...both you and Percy have complained about the summation mode, so I will reopen it. Sorry for no warning.

  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
  • Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation.
  • The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

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    Tangle
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    Message 3 of 12 (868512)
    12-13-2019 12:01 PM


    Why has an active forum with outstanding discussions gone into summation. Was there any warning?

    https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=19984&mpp=...


    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


      
    Tangle
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    Message 4 of 12 (868513)
    12-13-2019 12:02 PM


    Why has an active forum with outstanding discussions gone into summation. Was there any warning?

    https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=19984&mpp=...


    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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    Tangle
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    Message 5 of 12 (868514)
    12-13-2019 12:04 PM


    Why has an active forum with outstanding discussions gone into summation. Was there any warning?

    https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=19984&mpp=...


    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


      
    ringo
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    Message 6 of 12 (868515)
    12-13-2019 12:07 PM
    Reply to: Message 4 by Tangle
    12-13-2019 12:02 PM


    Tangle writes:

    Why has an active forum with outstanding discussions gone into summation.


    Proper moderator action would have been to instruct the topic starter to participate in good faith in his own topic.

    "If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...."
    -- Rudyard Kipling

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    Tangle
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    Message 7 of 12 (868518)
    12-13-2019 12:12 PM


    Apologies for the triple post - a database internal server error came up.

    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


      
    Theodoric
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    Message 8 of 12 (868520)
    12-13-2019 12:35 PM
    Reply to: Message 6 by ringo
    12-13-2019 12:07 PM


    That's what happens when a moderator starts their own topic and no other moderator steps in.

    Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

    "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

    If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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    Phat
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    Message 9 of 12 (868574)
    12-14-2019 4:34 PM


    Summation Explanation
    Tangle writes:

    Why has an active forum with outstanding discussions gone into summation. Was there any warning?

    I was under the impression that any member could end their own topic but upon further investigation I found this not to be the case. I was acting in a member role rather than administrative. My apologies--I had no idea that you found the topic so fascinating. I was simply done with it, but it can go on. Perhaps next week I will reconsider. I just get frustrated with these arguments.
    ringo writes:

    Proper moderator action would have been to instruct the topic starter to participate in good faith in his own topic.

    Duly noted. You guys were right this time.

    Theodoric writes:

    That's what happens when a moderator starts their own topic and no other moderator steps in.

    Adminnemooseus promoted the topic. I was under the mistaken impression that members could close their own topics. In any case, perhaps Oscar the Grouch would like to become a moderator? Have you ever considerd applying?

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    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
    "~Thugpreacha

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    “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
    ? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith


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    Tangle
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    Message 10 of 12 (868576)
    12-14-2019 4:45 PM
    Reply to: Message 9 by Phat
    12-14-2019 4:34 PM


    Re: Summation Explanation
    So have you reinstated it with your admin privileges?

    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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    Phat
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    Message 11 of 12 (868578)
    12-14-2019 5:07 PM
    Reply to: Message 10 by Tangle
    12-14-2019 4:45 PM


    Re: Summation Explanation
    It is back to normal. Again, sorry for my misunderstanding.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
    "~Thugpreacha

    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

    “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
    ? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith


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    Theodoric
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    Message 12 of 12 (868615)
    12-15-2019 9:59 AM
    Reply to: Message 9 by Phat
    12-14-2019 4:34 PM


    Re: Summation Explanation
    I was under the impression that any member could end their own topic

    That is a pretty disingenuous explanation since members do not have the capability of putting a topic into summation mode. In order to do that we would have to ask a moderator to do it.
    Adminnemooseus promoted the topic.

    I never said or implied that you promoted your own topic. I said you started the thread and no other moderator did any moderation of it or you.
    perhaps Oscar the Grouch would like to become a moderator?

    Always nice when a moderator resorts to personal attacks. How about you become a better moderator? Practice a little objectivity in your moderation. Oh yeah and drop personal attacks. Then skin is not a good thing for a moderator.

    Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


    Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

    "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

    If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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