I recently asked about the original sin and sin in general. I got some replies from Phat and Faith and some others that were good. Those explanations helped me understand it better.
So I'm hoping to get some perspective on destiny. God knows what's going to happen to me tomorrow. He knows when your going to sin, when you'll die, he knows the future. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I remember it.
God tells Moses basically everything about his future. Very detailed as I remember.
A good example is when Judas turns Jesus over to the Roman cops for money and later hangs himself out of guilt. Jesus knew he was going to do that all along. He betrays Jesus and commits suicide. That equals hell for Judas. But poor Judas didn't even have a choice did he?
Adam and Eve. God knew they were going to eat the apple. Doesn't that make the original sin kind of pointless?
If our lives are already pre determined then what's the point of going through the motions? What drives people to study like I am and try follow a career? Was i already wired up to do this?
Their some tough questions I think but I'll add another topic. Were there is good there is evil. Satan. Lúcifer. Are they the same entity? Where is Satan? How much power has he got? How is he influencing earth and the people? Is he responsible for these stupid left wing students with their safe spaces and cry closets?
I think I have one for you. One of my favorite conversationalists (and foils) is our member, Ringo. He always manages to cleverly yet accurately express a contrarian yet very logical argument that he uses in this thread to argue with a fundamentalist member, Dawn Bertot. Follow the conversation here:
Interesting but it is all religion vs science and my agnostic questions never seem to get answered. I'm not after debate. Just basically asking people to try change my mind or try tip the scales. I recently asked for a theological explanations of original sin, general sin, Jesus and destiny
And now to both atheists and theists I will ask them to observe and examine the social climate we are in today. It might not be for a while cos im busy atm but I'll get something down and run it through here first.
Also fill me in with references and visuals cos I want to use some for this next topic without being screwed around. People would demand I show references then reject them. They would use youtube clips and then reject my stuff cos it was "off the internet" or label me "creationist" which only made the atheist argument look shallow. Wat can I use and wat can't I use?
Can I please have a theological explanation to destiny without the religion vs science boxing gloves. I'm agnostic remember. God knows the future right? So Judas turns Jesus into the Roman's for gold and later hangs himself out of guilt. This would send a man to hell. But Jesus himself knew what Judas was going to do. Doesn't seem fair that Judas goes to hell for something that's out of his control.
The other example I will use is Adam and Eve. How does that work when God already has it written in stone?
It's a killer for religion. Makes me feel useless
OK thats what I wanted. Lets roll.
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