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GDR
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Message 1 of 4 (849127)
02-25-2019 2:27 PM


I like to read and find ways of getting my head around things. I have my theistic beliefs, but I look to science to modify my beliefs. Creation has always presented a conundrum and this highly speculative theory has come out of all that.

A literal reading of Genesis makes no sense. We didn’t actually even need science to see that. Science itself provides no real explanation except that it all started with the big bang and somehow evolved from there. I’d like to suggest another model of creation that is strictly speculative but seems to me to make sense.

I’d like to start with this article. What's 96 Percent of the Universe Made Of? The universe as we perceive it is apparently only 4% of what actually exists. Science has shown us that there is a whole lot more out there.

The 4% of all that is then, is the 4% that we are able to perceive with our 5 senses. Our theories on the 96% are based not of our perception of the 96%, but of its affect on the 4% we can perceive. Largely we are photon detectors. It seems to me reasonable to speculate that with different senses we would likely perceive a very different universe. For example if we didn’t have the sense of vision our perceived universe would be a lot less than the 4% that we actually can perceive. Also, if we didn’t have vision we would have no frame of reference to even consider the possibility of vision.

Are there other senses possible that would give us a very different perception of the universe, or an expanded perception of universe?

I read somewhere that our universe is an “emergent property of a greater reality”. If that is the case then it is reasonable to assume that our perception of creation is actually not of a creation of something from nothing. Creation of our perceived universe would actually be creation through evolutionary processes of creatures that were able to perceive a particular aspect of that creation, without directly perceiving the remaining 96%.

If anyone is actually interested in my musings this could go in all sorts of directions, and I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts. I have my fingers in a lot of pies so I don’t always have time for EvC but I’ll do my best to keep up.

I don’t really see a great fit for where this should go, but I suppose “Big Bang and Cosmology” might be the best fit. Whatever one of you moderators decide is fine by me.


He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8


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GDR
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Message 2 of 4 (849128)
02-25-2019 2:47 PM
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02-25-2019 2:27 PM


I din't mean for this to go into the coffee house. I thought I was putting it in proposed new topic.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8


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Message 3 of 4 (849129)
02-25-2019 3:44 PM
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02-25-2019 2:47 PM


Our naked senses can detect an almost infinitesimally small amount of the universe - a negligible amount.

The 4% we think we know about and the 96% that we don't is mostly deduced from mathematics, based on instruments that detect stuff that we are unable to unaided. We'll probably work out what the rest is in a generation or so. So then we'll know.

I don't know where that gets you?


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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02-25-2019 7:05 PM


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