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celestialGyoud
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Message 1 of 12 (853236)
05-23-2019 2:42 PM


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Hi, this is more about Social issues or the bible not being accurate nor inerrant either.

There is enough evidence that the bible was changed to demonic mistranslations.
The following was quoted from ALTA MOST HIGH G y a h a v e h (facebook page)

In the recent thousand years the very badly revised and corrected sentences called biblical that have been offered for the World do not look in no way friendly and fair, but very egotistical, bipolar and unrighteous.

That the original writings were changed to demonic, is evident because their distorted mistranslations are the exact opposite of righteousness, e.g. What if the government starts judging every man for his belief ... Would you call it righteousness?

Demonic: "... whoever does not believe is condemned already ..." ...

Original writings: "... Whoever does not see the light stands already in the darkness, for not seeing the (glittering) splendor of the name (through the clouds of heaven) ..."

... People are not judged for their belief, but for their deeds

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The foundation of christianism, which is founded in redemption or Redentione (a Roman doctrine that believes in payment of a price in exchange for forgiveness) is demonic,

1. Because all people never ceased to belong to the Most High

2. Forgiveness is given for free (without having to believe, no sacrifice of firstborn, no payment of ransom). But the original writings were changed to demonic telling you lies, telling to have to be a believer, telling you a price or ransom had been paid.

3. You know the truth is that the Most High never needed to pay anything to whoever

4. and never said you would be bought;

5. the Most High never ceased from having mercy;

6. never said everybody died;

7. never said a price would have to be paid (to whoever) in exchange for Forgiveness.

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Redentione or redemption (payment of price in exchange for forgiveness) does not work because the devil is just a creature, a dragon, a serpent. Redemtione is demonic because even if people ceased to belong to the Highest,
there is still the fact that Forgiveness is not bought. It is not given in exchange for a payment of price

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Forgiveness is not bought with blood

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"I will have mercy on whom I’ll have mercy"

1. this means that it does not depend on belief;

2. it means that forgiveness does not depend on payment of a price;

3. this means that it is not something bought with blood or sacrifices of first-born;

4. it means that your bible has been mixed with lies and that a large part of it became demonic or unclean (not as originally written) and needs to become cleanse again.

Edited by celestialGyoud, : update

Edited by celestialGyoud, : update

Edited by Admin, : Slight grammatical improvement to title.


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Message 2 of 12 (853238)
05-23-2019 8:33 PM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Demonic Holy Bible - How did your Bible become demonic? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
    
Thugpreacha
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Message 3 of 12 (853245)
05-24-2019 2:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud
05-23-2019 2:42 PM


Assuming that demons exist and that they are antiChristian, how do we know that this nutcase website that you propose is any holier?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 4 of 12 (853252)
05-24-2019 5:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud
05-23-2019 2:42 PM


He-he-he. Demons.

I think you are just plain old "appropriate-balance-of-chemicals-working-on-the-brain-to-work-efficiently" defected.


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Thugpreacha
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Message 5 of 12 (853256)
05-24-2019 7:46 AM
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05-24-2019 5:02 AM


Does the Bible attract Trolls or does it enable them?
I'm not getting on his case for bringing up demons. That's a whole nother topic for a whole nother day.

I'm challenging his warped concept of attacking the Bible as satanically inspired by quoting what to me looks like an uninspired source of his own. In all likelihood, celestialGyoud is little more than a troll.

Now your assertion that one's brain chemicals can and do become unbalanced, thus spinning incredulous yarns of assertions regarding spirituality and a basic belief in the supernatural over the more rational and sane view which secular humanism espouses is a valid concern, and I myself will likely become a prime target. lets carry on in the name of science, logic, reason, reality, and the actual magic of belief.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 6 of 12 (853258)
05-24-2019 8:01 AM
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05-24-2019 7:46 AM


Re: Does the Bible attract Trolls or does it enable them?
You really need to get the chemicals working on your brains to be checked.
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celestialGyoud
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Message 7 of 12 (853269)
05-24-2019 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Thugpreacha
05-24-2019 2:05 AM


THE NAME OF THE LAMB MEANS YHWH IS THE SALVATION - Not a messiah or second person
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There is no holy website. The bible is holy in the perspective that the light shines in the darkness, and as You can see the Light shines even in the dark or demonic atmosphere of the mistranslations that are appreciated by the believers because of the unholy or demonic offer of granting salvation in exchange of a sacrificial death or payment of price (allegedly paid to the devil).

It is all appreciated by the believers because of the unholy or demonic proposal that You are saved as long as You consent that a price would have been paid and your debts were transferred to a second person, which means "You are forgiven (your entire account is cleared up) as long as, in exchange, you accept and consent to a sacrifice that kills an innocent or firstborn.

So If you accept jesus as proposed by the believers in the church or as it is presented by the sacred vulgate (a holy bible that was changed to demonic mistranslations) then you consent to a sacrifice that kills an innocent or firstborn in exchange for forgiveness.

The christianism doctrine is anti-forgiveness by nature, and that is the first reason why christianism became demonic: because it believes that the Most High did not forgive and said "Everybody died or will not be forgiven unless (s)he she believes the Lamb died to pay the price for him or her.

Also christianism itself is lying by stating that everyone's account (with credits and debts included) would have been transferred to a second person, or a second savior (the Lamb). Christianism is lying because You know the Lamb is not a second person or a spirit of man.

The Lamb of the lamb means Yhwh is the Salvation, which implies that the Lamb is just Yhwh's word that became flesh. And as the living Word becomes flesh, it is Not a spirit of man that is in the flesh. Also it is not a second person of the alleged trinity, nor a spirit of man, not even a spirit of a messiah, or a spirit of redeemer becoming flesh. And that is why one's account or debts were not transferred to a second person or second savior. See the meaning in the name of the Lamb: Yhwh is the salvation, the salvation is not the alleged messiah or redeemer that was added to the distorted demonic version of the holy bible that the great majority of people have at home. Remember the real Lamb got seven eyes that represent the Completeness of Yhwh's Spirit, not a spirit of man.

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Message 8 of 12 (853270)
05-24-2019 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by celestialGyoud
05-24-2019 11:27 AM


Re: THE NAME OF THE LAMB MEANS YHWH IS THE SALVATION - Not a messiah or second person
This is a cult. This webpage preaches falsehoods. We are not gods. and I'll not have you spamming EvC Forum with this malarkey. Please move on...

Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.


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    Thugpreacha
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    Message 9 of 12 (853292)
    05-25-2019 9:49 AM
    Reply to: Message 6 by Pressie
    05-24-2019 8:01 AM


    Pressie says to Press In
    Pressie writes:

    You really need to get the chemicals working on your brains to be checked.

    Quite likely you are right, Pressie. My brain has been adversely affected by several chemicals lately. One of them is Phentermine, a diet pill prescribed by my Doctor. It has likely fried my synapses and made them over-reactive. I can't really blame Jesus or Satan for the chemicals which I consume, now can I?

    Another supplement taken lately that may have had an effect is Phosphatidylserine. Not only that, but my coffee consumption has increasd lately. I think I need to exercise and lay off the stimulants.

    Edited by Thugpreacha, : added link


    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile


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    Sarah Bellum
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    Message 10 of 12 (853293)
    05-25-2019 10:04 AM
    Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud
    05-23-2019 2:42 PM


    This has a whiff of the "satanic verses" embarrassment in the Islamic scriptures.
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    Message 11 of 12 (853305)
    05-25-2019 2:12 PM
    Reply to: Message 3 by Thugpreacha
    05-24-2019 2:05 AM


    Phat writes:

    ... how do we know that this nutcase website that you propose is any holier?


    By their fruits ye shall know them. That's how we know that so many Christian doctrines are bogus.

    Izquierdo.

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    Message 12 of 12 (853559)
    05-28-2019 10:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud
    05-23-2019 2:42 PM


    celestialGyoud writes:


    That the original writings were changed to demonic, is evident because their distorted mistranslations are the exact opposite of righteousness

    I'd say that's just evidence that the people who wrote those texts had different moral values back then.


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