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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 1 of 22 (853236)
05-23-2019 2:42 PM


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Hi, this is more about Social issues or the bible not being accurate nor inerrant either.

There is enough evidence that the bible was changed to demonic mistranslations.

In the recent thousand years the very badly revised and corrected sentences called biblical that have been offered for the World do not look in no way friendly and fair, but very egotistical, bipolar and unrighteous.

That the original writings were changed to demonic, is evident because their distorted mistranslations are the exact opposite of righteousness, e.g. What if the government starts judging every man for his belief ... Would you call it righteousness?

Demonic: "... whoever does not believe is condemned already ..." ...

Original writings: "... Whoever does not see the light stands already in the darkness, for not seeing the (glittering) splendor of the name (through the clouds of heaven) ..."

... People are not judged for their belief, but for their deeds

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The foundation of christianism, which is founded in redemption or Redentione (a Roman doctrine that believes in payment of a price in exchange for forgiveness) is demonic,

1. Because all people never ceased to belong to the Most High

2. Forgiveness is given for free (without having to believe, no sacrifice of firstborn, no payment of ransom). But the original writings were changed to demonic telling you lies, telling to have to be a believer, telling you a price or ransom had been paid.

3. You know the truth is that the Most High never needed to pay anything to whoever

4. and never said you would be bought;

5. the Most High never ceased from having mercy;

6. never said everybody died;

7. never said a price would have to be paid (to whoever) in exchange for Forgiveness.

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Redentione or redemption (payment of price in exchange for forgiveness) does not work because the devil is just a creature, a dragon, a serpent. Redemtione is demonic because even if people ceased to belong to the Highest,
there is still the fact that Forgiveness is not bought. It is not given in exchange for a payment of price

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Forgiveness is not bought with blood

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"I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy"

1. it does not depend on belief (a work of man);

2. forgiveness does not depend on payment of a price;

3. this means that it is not something bought with blood or sacrifices of first-born;

4. it means that your bible has been mixed with lies and that a large part of it became demonic or unclean (not as originally written) and needs to become cleanse again.

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Edited by Admin, : Slight grammatical improvement to title.

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Message 2 of 22 (853238)
05-23-2019 8:33 PM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Demonic Holy Bible - How did your Bible become demonic? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
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Message 3 of 22 (853245)
05-24-2019 2:05 AM
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05-23-2019 2:42 PM


Assuming that demons exist and that they are antiChristian, how do we know that this nutcase website that you propose is any holier?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 4 of 22 (853252)
05-24-2019 5:02 AM
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05-23-2019 2:42 PM


He-he-he. Demons.

I think you are just plain old "appropriate-balance-of-chemicals-working-on-the-brain-to-work-efficiently" defected.


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Message 5 of 22 (853256)
05-24-2019 7:46 AM
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Does the Bible attract Trolls or does it enable them?
I'm not getting on his case for bringing up demons. That's a whole nother topic for a whole nother day.

I'm challenging his warped concept of attacking the Bible as satanically inspired by quoting what to me looks like an uninspired source of his own. In all likelihood, celestialGyoud is little more than a troll.

Now your assertion that one's brain chemicals can and do become unbalanced, thus spinning incredulous yarns of assertions regarding spirituality and a basic belief in the supernatural over the more rational and sane view which secular humanism espouses is a valid concern, and I myself will likely become a prime target. lets carry on in the name of science, logic, reason, reality, and the actual magic of belief.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 6 of 22 (853258)
05-24-2019 8:01 AM
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05-24-2019 7:46 AM


Re: Does the Bible attract Trolls or does it enable them?
You really need to get the chemicals working on your brains to be checked.

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Message 7 of 22 (853269)
05-24-2019 11:27 AM
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05-24-2019 2:05 AM


THE NAME OF THE LAMB MEANS YHWH IS THE SALVATION - Not a messiah or second person
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The bible is holy in the perspective that the light shines in the darkness, and as You can see the Light shines even in the dark or demonic atmosphere of the mistranslations that are appreciated by the believers because of the unholy or demonic offer of granting salvation in exchange of a sacrificial death or payment of price (allegedly paid to the devil).

It is all appreciated by the believers because of the unholy or demonic proposal that You are saved as long as You consent that a price would have been paid and your debts were transferred to a second person, which means "You are forgiven (your entire account is cleared up) as long as, in exchange, you accept and consent to a sacrifice that kills an innocent or firstborn.

So If you accept jesus as proposed by the believers in the church or as it is presented by the sacred vulgate (a holy bible that was changed to demonic mistranslations) then you consent to a sacrifice that kills an innocent or firstborn in exchange for forgiveness.

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The real Lamb is a human-lamb, and he was sent having seven eyes that represent the Completeness of Yhwh's Spirit, not a spirit of man.

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Message 8 of 22 (853270)
05-24-2019 11:44 AM
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05-24-2019 11:27 AM


Re: THE NAME OF THE LAMB MEANS YHWH IS THE SALVATION - Not a messiah or second person
This is a cult. This webpage preaches falsehoods. We are not gods. and I'll not have you spamming EvC Forum with this malarkey. Please move on...

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    Phat
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    Message 9 of 22 (853292)
    05-25-2019 9:49 AM
    Reply to: Message 6 by Pressie
    05-24-2019 8:01 AM


    Pressie says to Press In
    Pressie writes:

    You really need to get the chemicals working on your brains to be checked.

    Quite likely you are right, Pressie. My brain has been adversely affected by several chemicals lately. One of them is Phentermine, a diet pill prescribed by my Doctor. It has likely fried my synapses and made them over-reactive. I can't really blame Jesus or Satan for the chemicals which I consume, now can I?

    Another supplement taken lately that may have had an effect is Phosphatidylserine. Not only that, but my coffee consumption has increasd lately. I think I need to exercise and lay off the stimulants.

    Edited by Thugpreacha, : added link


    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile


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    Message 10 of 22 (853293)
    05-25-2019 10:04 AM
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    05-23-2019 2:42 PM


    This has a whiff of the "satanic verses" embarrassment in the Islamic scriptures.

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    Message 11 of 22 (853305)
    05-25-2019 2:12 PM
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    Phat writes:

    ... how do we know that this nutcase website that you propose is any holier?


    By their fruits ye shall know them. That's how we know that so many Christian doctrines are bogus.

    Izquierdo.

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    Message 12 of 22 (853559)
    05-28-2019 10:18 PM
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    05-23-2019 2:42 PM


    celestialGyoud writes:


    That the original writings were changed to demonic, is evident because their distorted mistranslations are the exact opposite of righteousness

    I'd say that's just evidence that the people who wrote those texts had different moral values back then.


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    goldenlightArchangel
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    Message 13 of 22 (882786)
    10-11-2020 10:19 PM
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    05-28-2019 10:18 PM


    This is what really happened 1,500 years ago
    I apologize for a long time without replying,

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    For so long a time the light shone in the darkness without exposing them, and the World read the bible without having a clue of the deepest and obscure ways to which it was changed. It is all about to be revealed. When the living light is separated from the dark it disassembles the Codex that the World has known as ‘The Codex Vaticano’ and ‘The Holy Bible’. and it is going to be as Alta (Aleph Tav), the highest, has predicted, the game is over.

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    Quotation from Chronicles of Legion Ravab, the spirit of dragon, ex-commander and consul emeritus in the wars of Yahweh (unpublished\private collection)
    "... It was allowed by Alta, the highest, 1,500 years ago, for us to make just one deal through the Codex Vaticano; the agreement that offers forgiveness and salvation for all sinners. Whether criminals, murderers, and mercenaries; people are declared free from their sins, by believing and accepting that a price was paid for them, with blood and sacrificial death. That is the greatest and largest agreement ever made with the World, through the books we named new testament. And all they need to do is believe and consecrate the deal, by drinking the wine, that represents the blood, or eating the bread, the parts of the body. and we named it redemption, a price already paid…"

    That is Legion`s legatee! Of course, the most famous agreement ever made with the World through the bible, named redemption, which consents to payment with blood and sacrificial death is totally illegal, unrighteous, and demonic. But that’s Legion`s legatee and the work that Alta (Aleph Tav), the highest, hired him for. That was a good job and his best, as usual, if considered the purpose of keeping the right ones out of this and letting the wrong ones, of the religious idolatry, accept the advantage of a price allegedly paid for them at the cost of innocent blood.

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    Message 14 of 22 (882802)
    10-16-2020 8:01 PM


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    The true story would not sell, we all know a winged human-lamb having 7 eyes, and coming down flying like a dove was too unbelievable to be published in written form. The human-lamb had the name Yhwh engraved in its forehead.
    THE LAMB ITSELF WAS THE MIRACLE.

    But you know that would definitely Not sell,
    because the real Lamb leaves no room for them to idolize It.

    All changes were necessary for the bible to become the best-selling book of All-time.

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    Message 15 of 22 (882805)
    10-17-2020 3:55 AM


    The truth is only one
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    the agreement of redemption has a thousand truths that came out of Legion's mouth. But the truth is only one and the World will be given to know:

    1. . . . . TO ACCEPT OR CONSENTING TO PAYMENT WITH BLOOD OR SACRIFICIAL DEATH IS DEMONIC

    That twelve words clause exposes the existence of the dark world as well as the access to it in the Codex Vaticano, through the bind: the most demonic doctrine ever up to this day, named pacto de redemtione. Legion says: "...We placed it in the bible and we named it redemption, the greatest and largest agreement ever made with the World. It offers salvation and at the same time perdition that belongs in the eternal dark. It is a belief\abomination that leads to desolation because the salvation is offered not for free but in exchange of them losing it eternally, by accepting and consecrating the deal of a price allegedly paid for them with the blood of human sacrifice ..."

    Mercy endures forever and ever, and it means Alta Gyahaveh never said everybody died; to the contrary, those who forgive will be forgiven, and everything will be pardoned except when they choose to be slaves serving unto a god, which is a transgression foretold in the first commandment, a deadly sin, not something one commits externally but against the light of their own spirit when they choose to stay in the dark through their religious idolatry.

    But this is what makes the doctrine of redemption to be the most demonic doctrine of All-time, it is backed up by two other lies saying that sinners belong to the devil and there is no mercy without punishment or someone paying the price for them, with blood and sacrificial death. But You know the truth is one: nobody belongs to the devil, and I will have mercy and compassion on whomever I will have mercy and compassion, without the need of punishment or someone paying the price for you.

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