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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
This thread has been opened in case Faith wants to pursue her position that the Gulf of Mexico is not a sea. She began promoting this idea in Message 1050 of the Did the Flood really happen? thread.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A horse is a horse, of course, of course ...
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Stile Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
Admin writes: This thread has been opened in case Faith wants to pursue her position that the Gulf of Mexico is not a sea. "Sea" is a rather vague term - is it not?Sort of a synonym for "ocean?" In that case... all gulfs would be seas.But not all seas would be gulfs. I suppose that, literally, I wouldn't say "the Gulf of Mexico is a sea" - but I would say "the Gulf of Mexico is part of the sea?"However, standing at a beach in the Gulf of Mexico... I would equally say "This is the Gulf of Mexico!" or "This is the sea!"
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1754 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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From Wiki"
"The Gulf of Mexico (Spanish: Golfo de Mxico) is an ocean basin and a marginal sea of the Atlantic Ocean, largely surrounded by the North American continent. It is bounded on the northeast, north and northwest by the Gulf Coast of the United States, on the southwest and south by Mexico, and on the southeast by Cuba." Bolding is mine."You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1754 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
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Edited by 1.61803, : duplicate"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Was the wrong post linked?
Out of curiosity, I've read message #1050 and I don't see Faith saying the Gulf of Mexico isn't a sea, she seems to be saying the Gulf of Mexico wasn't a sea when the strata were laid down. Perhaps that's still an egregious error, but it's a different error.It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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JonF Member (Idle past 418 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
She said the bottom of the Gulf is not sea floor. Message 1070
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1695 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thank you. Yes, I've been saying that it was land when the strata were deposited and then it sank.
And I said later that it is not NOW sea floor because it sank after the strata of the geological column were in place, and the strata on the sea floors now are not the geological column. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 418 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It is the floor of a sea. If it ever was part of the geologic column, it is now. And deposition is adding to it.
What is a sea:
quote:(Merriam-Webster) quote:(Wikipedia) quote:(YourDictionary) quote:(Webster)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... Yes, I've been saying that it was land when the strata were deposited and then it sank. And I said later that it is not NOW sea floor because it sank after the strata of the geological column were in place, ... And it wasn't eroded away, so it was and still IS part of the geological column. There is net deposition in the Gulf. The geological column is not over and done with. Time to dodge again? Like you have dodged the issue of Green River Formation -- Varves, Fossils, Time and Geological Columns Answer these questions HERE If you care. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : clrtyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17909 Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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quote: Well you’re wrong about all of that. Obviously it is sea floor because the Gulf of Mexico is a sea. Nothing else is needed. Obviously the strata are part of the geological column because they exist. And, for, your information the rifting that formed the Gulf of Mexico started in the late Triassic, so obviously even the Jurassic strata are later than that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1695 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Maybe this will be clearer: It looks from the cross sections like the strata in the Gulf, which are not measured any deeper than the Jurassic level, are the same strata as are found on the continents, whereas in the oceans we don't find those strata, as I understand it. If you think we do then fine, that can be part of the argument. But my understand has been that the strata in the oceans are not the same strata. But since those in the Gulf do seem to be the same strata I supposed that they had formed on the land and that the Gulf itself formed after they were all laid down, which seems to be the case with a lot of phenomena. In that sense it is not part of the oceans, even though now it might be right to call it a sea or part of the oceans. It's just not the same sea that was there during the laying down of the strata.
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JonF Member (Idle past 418 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
And it's part of "the" geologic column and is being added to.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17909 Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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quote: Since the evidence shows that many strata did not form on land that is a rather poor piece of reasoning. And there is a big difference between something seeming to be the case and you desperately wanting it to be the case, no matter what the evidence shows.
quote: It is obviously right to call it a sea since it is a large expanse of salt water connected to the ocean. Your weird ideas about the origins of the strata underneath it are completely irrelevant.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1558 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Sea in geography: a body of water adjacent to or connected to ocean.If too far away from ocean, then it is called lake.
Sea in geology: area covered by ocean water or modified ocean water. Sea should be described by other qualifier, such as shallow sea, deep sea, open sea, closed sea, etc. In some cases, the described sea are synonymous to ocean.
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