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ICANT
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Message 1 of 5 (915693)
02-16-2024 2:03 PM


Percy since you don't like the way I am debating in the Did Jesus Exist? by Bart Ehrman I am proposing this new Thread.
In this thread I will discuss Jesus roll in the creationn of the universe and His Physical roll on earth.
In Message 334 Taq said:
Taq writes:
We don't need to know where the universe came from in order to conclude that the universe began as a dense region of energy that expanded outwards.
That pen point or pea sized universe could not contain enough energy to create the entire universe and everything in it as there are billions of Galaxies known to exist in the universe now.
I will agree that you don't have to know the origin of the universe to know that it came from a lot of energy that had to come from somewhere that the universe and everything in it was formed out of.
He also said:
Taq writes:
In the same way, we don't need to know where energy and matter came from in order to understand how clouds form. You might as well claim that germs causing disease is an assumption because we don't know where the energy for the universe came from.
Clouds forming don't have anything to do with the amount of energy required to form all the stars, planets, billions of Galaxies in the universe.
Therefore you need a source for the energy to create the universe and everything in it. No energy no universe.
If Taq is correct and I think he is and the "universe began as a dense region of energy that expanded outwards. It requires a dense region of energy to start with existing somewhere.
My question is where did that energy come from and science says "we don't know".
I want to find the answer to that question.
God Bless,
I will be using the Bible so place it anywhere you like that I can use it.

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 2 of 5 (915698)
02-16-2024 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ICANT
02-16-2024 2:03 PM


Did A Historical Jesus Create The Universe?
The only problem here is that you proposed the topic in the Book Nook. Is there a published book from which you are referencing? I am no longer an admin, or I would place this topic in another Forum.
There are several Forums in which it would fit.

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ICANT
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Message 3 of 5 (915707)
02-16-2024 7:29 PM
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02-16-2024 3:51 PM


Re: Did A Historical Jesus Create The Universe?
Phat
It put that one in the book nook also
what can I do?

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Message 4 of 5 (915708)
02-16-2024 9:11 PM
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02-16-2024 7:29 PM


Re: Did A Historical Jesus Create The Universe?
Just start it again in the most appropriate Forum

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02-17-2024 12:26 PM


Please see The Historical Jesus: Did He Create the Universe?.

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