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Michamus
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Message 1 of 2 (505527)
04-13-2009 7:53 AM


I am calling out Peg on a claim she has made.
PEG writes:
As soon as anyone creates their own book, especially one that contradicts the bible, it has to be questioned.
Peg is under the impression that the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible. I have asked her to provide 3 examples of the Book of Mormon contradicting the Bible. She has only responded so far with quotes from Joseph Smith, and a non-referenced summary of the LDS Church Belief. I will touch on the quotes from Joseph Smith:
PEG writes:
Man, as a spirit, was begotten and born of heavenly parents, and reared to maturity in the eternal mansions of the Father, prior to coming upon the earth in a temporal body." JosephF. Smith, president from 1901 to 1918
the Bible teaches that the parents of all humans was Adam & Eve, fleshly humans, not spirits.
This can be easily be argued as Adam and Eve being the parents of the Human Body, not spirit. A good question would be, where does the Human Spirit come from? Does the Bible have any accounts of man existing before this mortal existence?
LDS Website writes:
2. Jeremiah had a premortal existence. Through revelation the prophet Jeremiah learned something about the preexistence of his own soul. The Lord spoke to him and said, “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” (Jer. 1:5.)
Since, as this passage states, the Lord knew Jeremiah before he was born and sanctified Jeremiah before he was born and ordained Jeremiah before he was born, it must be clear that Jeremiah was in existence before his mortal birth.
3. Job had a premortal existence. On one occasion the Lord asked the prophet Job, “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
“When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” (Job 38:4, 7.)
Now although the Lord didn’t tell Job where he was before the foundations of the earth were laid, the very question implies that Job was in existence somewhere”and not only Job but “all the sons of God.” And when we recall that the Bible teaches that we are the sons of God (“the offspring of God” is the way the apostle Paul phrases it in Acts 17:29), we can’t help but conclude that we were in existence with Job (and Jeremiah and the Lord Jesus Christ) before the earth was created.
4. Jesus made no attempt to correct his apostles when they expressed a belief in man’s premortal existence. This conclusion is based on an incident narrated in the ninth chapter of John. In reference to a blind man the apostles asked Jesus, “Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?” (John 9:2.) Note that their question was not simply whether the man’s parents had sinned before he was born but whether the man himself had sinned before he was born. Their query plainly shows that they believed that the man had been both alive and capable of sinning before he was born.
PEG writes:
2. "God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens." Joseph Smith
the Bible teaches that The Almighty God is a spirit person and nowhere does it say that God was once a man.
The Bible never explicitly states the nature or history of Elohim (which is a plurality as the Council of El) other than it being the creator. This is why there is a plural "us" in the creation, and interaction between Adam, Eve, and God. It is after the expulsion that YHWH comes into the picture. Thus, you cannot contradict information that does not exist.
PEG writes:
Mormon Theology states that all humankind existed as spirit beings in heaven before coming to earth. The purpose of their coming to earth is so that they can be tested and, if successful, be exalted, that they may eventually become gods themselves with worlds of their own."
The bible teaches that man was made from the dust of the earth. He did not exist until God made him.
Again, you are discussing the physical creation of man. This does not prohibit the increase in "knowledge" on a pre-existing spirit. The logical following is, that which is created on earth, must end... therefor the spirit must have previously existed.
These points I have made were merely a rebuttal. The original topic still stands of naming contradictions that exist between the BoM and the Bible.
I am looking forward to your responses.
Suggested forum: 'Faith and Belief'

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04-13-2009 9:08 AM


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