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joshua221 
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Message 1 of 7 (371060)
12-20-2006 12:46 AM


I couldn't get that feeling back. That childhood feeling like I was looking out the window of my mom's car thinking of everything with wonder. I saw a holiness in it which I would never see again. I remember everything.

Of the 90s and the internet wasn't being used yet. Things were better.

"Hoop Dreams" gave me this feeling again for a moment, a drive to a far off town in the fall weather gave me this feeling for a moment, my own blurring and bright orange memory flashed and filled gave me this feeling for a moment. I remembered the 4-h club for a second. Walking by a 20 year old black guy who swayed with behind the times clothing on, who looked like the 90s gave me this feeling, his smile and his goofiness was unreal. Weird how an existence can give you such a feeling, I wanted to tell him how thankful I was. A Nas song gave me the feeling. But these feelings are so fast and fleeting that I always wish that I could live forever in that bliss as I once did.

But now I know.

I know that that guy is sometimes sad, that he is sometimes stressed, and that he will die one day.

These feelings I wish to live with forever. Evolution explains that feelings like these are most likely feelings which perpetuate my species. These memories and complex emotions which stir in all humans are just a mechanism of survival. Chimps and simians probably experience feelings such as these as they are helpful to them as well. Right?

So where does that leave me and my feelings? In a garbage dumpster with a billion single celled organisms who are just as significant as me. This child-like feeling is just a primitive thing, why should I expect more from it. Why should I hold such partiality with this feeling at all.

Evolution has rendered me a purposeless robot.

Edited by prophex, : No reason given.

Edited by prophex, : SORRY ABOUT THAT, DIDN'T COMPLETE THE POST, unprofessional.


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Message 2 of 7 (371080)
12-20-2006 6:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
12-20-2006 12:46 AM


Clarification
And you are wanting to discuss what?
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joshua221 
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Message 3 of 7 (371226)
12-20-2006 5:59 PM
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Re: Clarification
sorry about that pd
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Message 4 of 7 (371335)
12-21-2006 2:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
12-20-2006 12:46 AM


I Robot
Charlie, you need to have a genuine blog somewhere on the net! :)

I like these topics, but its not yet a post. Can you elaborate?


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joshua221 
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Message 5 of 7 (371477)
12-21-2006 6:56 PM
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12-21-2006 2:25 AM


Re: I Robot
I feel that my claim that the theory of evolution renders special feelings and memories of human beings as meaningless, primitive, and ultimately insignificant because they are linked entirely to the mechanism of survival of the species, is a claim which could cause quite a bit of controversy on the forum.

Was the point of the post not clear enough?


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Message 6 of 7 (371479)
12-21-2006 7:05 PM
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12-21-2006 6:56 PM


Re: I Robot
Haven't we had this discussion with you numerous times before?
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joshua221 
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Message 7 of 7 (371486)
12-21-2006 7:35 PM
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12-21-2006 7:05 PM


Re: I Robot
Yeah and I think that the claim that came out of it was that, What feels right does not necessarily mean anything, and that although it does not feel good that the feelings of our species do not mean anything, this does not negate the truth of evolution.

So this is where we still are all at.

That yes, my feelings and memories are meaningless because it's most likely a trait or ability that has been passed on through evolution supporting evolution and as a product of evolution.

But I argued that these feelings do mean a lot and are special/unique because being human is more meaningful than survival. We aren't animals so primitive living for ourselves. We can think through Platonic realism. We can be just people, act justly. So where is evolution here, is it an invisible force which makes all my motions for knowledge and truth purposeless? It doesn't apply. It simply doesn't apply. It is null. It's dead.


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