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12-18-2006 8:27 PM

Pilate__Judas has recently presented a list of quotes by famous scientists, who disdain evolution. The thread can be found here

This list is found in all sorts of forms all over the web. I would like this thread to be dedicated to deconstructing this list, determined where phrases have been taken out of context and scientists misquoted. I will start. Here is a list of all the authors I was able to find information for. A number of them are not even biologist, nor does their field even really have anything to do with biology. They are simply fellow scientists commenting disdainfully on a neighboring scientists field. Not uncommon, really, I hear biologist mock the vapis theoretics of string-theorists all the time, without really knowing what it is they are mocking. And some of these people aren't even scientists.

Let's look at the author's of the quotes for a second (sources are Wikipedia, general websearches, author's homepage, institution department from scientific articles) I listed their research interest where it could be found.
Steven J. Gould- Evolutionary Biologist (Notice he is still an evolutionist, and none of his quotes intend to throw out evolution as a theory)
John Ambrose Fleming - Electrical Engineer (Radar and phot-tubes)
Henry Lipson - Physicist (Crystallography and X-ray Diffraction)
Norman MacBeth - LAWYER
I.L. Cohen- Methematician 1 or Engineer 2
W.R. Thompson- Biologist, entomologist
James Conant- Chemist
T.N. Tahmisian- Physiologist
Louis Agassiz- Zoologist, Glaciologist
Quote from Wikipedia

Agassiz is remembered today for his work on ice ages, and for being one of the last prominent zoologists to resist Charles Darwin's theories on evolution (an attitude he would not relinquish for the rest of his life)

Peter Mora- geophysicist earthquakes
Stanley Joki- Phd in Physics and Theology- Benedictine PRIEST
Tony Hughes and David Lambert- Evolutionary Genetics
Kenenth Hsu- geologist
George Simpson- Biologist (His quote seems to refer to extraterrestrial research)
Lucy Mathews, Immunobiologist?
Pierre-Paul Grasse- Evolutionist
Michael Denton- Biochemist, Former Discovery Institute member, apparently now a supporter of evolution (though still an IDer?)

Some were not included because I was not able to turn up any information on them. I was honest, I did include those few authors who were disdainful of evolution and were from evoutionary fields. Now the list of "converted scientists" is less than half what these lists claim. And I have not yet gone into which of the remaining half of biologists have been misquote or taken out of context.

You hear evolutionist says we are descedant from apes and monkees. Sure, but that's not the point. All of life is related, not just human's with monkees. If you hug a tree, you're hugging a relative, a very distant relative, but a relative nonetheless." Dr. Joan Roughgarden in Evolution and Christian Faith

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