Invitation to MSN Creation vs Evolution Group

I invite you to check out our MSN Creation vs Evolution Group at: http://groups.msn.com/CreationvsEvolutionWe are the highest activity Creation vs Evolution discussion Group at MSN, with about 200 new posts per week, and we always have lively, spirited arguments. But truthfully, we have had a lack of intelligent, coherent people on the creationist side to debate the past few months, so if you think you have what it takes, we invite you to test your debating skills with us. And if any of you evolutionists are getting tired of the same old oft-refuted creationist arguments here, at least you might find some new ideas in our group. So check us out!(We even have Brad McFall! He calls himself "herp" in our group)

Looks like a great site! Could I request a reciprocal link on your links page? A link to your site was already on this site's Discussion Boards page.Best of luck!--------------------EvC Forum Administrator

You must get alot of these (RvX) in your group, eh? :
- http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=5&t=39&p=6--Tedious isn't it? I'm a YEC and I will admit that I have yet to make contact with any high number of reasonable YEC's through my experience(though I may admire some of the works of various Young Earth scientists). I'd have to say that I know one or two in this forum, but that's about it. My time on debating EvC has been a bit limited however over the past month because of my research in whatever geoscientific field I feel like inquiring on every other day. I still hold out and try to keep up though . Cheers on your sites success, seems to be Evo dominated, with good reason after you read any number of crazy YEC posts there. I'd probably even have a lot of fun educating them if they ran a-ground over here! Just send them over when you get tired of them.BTW, can you ever understand Brad's posts? No one here in our forum has been able to distinguish anything but incoherent flighty thoughts wondering around in them. He has a seemingly sophisticated(?) vocabulary, though his grammar, punctuation, and spelling needs some major surgery. Believe me, I'd enjoy reading his posts if they didn't give me such a headache!------------------

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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
BTW, can you ever understand Brad's posts? No one here in our forum has been able to distinguish anything but incoherent flighty thoughts wondering around in them.

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The amazing thing is that I'm not even really sure whether he's a creationist or an evolutionist!

I was ordained an ELDER in the Presby C- in High School and realized it would be no difference to ascribe to statement of mission as in ICR but for financial reasons I have not acted on this social transmission. Cobra, I am quite certain that Europeans who come to Cornell are UNAWARE of Christianity as it is in the US and for this local reason alone am quite certain that Creationism will contribute to science in a way that not even evolutionists are at present willing to environment. I do not think that Phillip Johnson's nominal idea of this is fully completable as for instance XML transforms but not XML are Turing Complete etc. Creationist have asked for the mechanism of evolution to be blue-printed but becasue of the Wright/Fisher difference for instance this muliplication has not been carried out educationally for all of the comphrehensibility it possess. Sorry if I am hard to follow. True I need a secretary.I had the question to Pope's 96 query about counter run of divided genetics vs plenum of physico-chem research by contract in writing accepted into the COllege Scholar Program but no BIOLOGISTS at Cornell were prepared to learn all the science needed to carry out not a new Dept of bIology and Society which they made as I was about to graduate but continue to not try to vaildate some possible change of behavior being a precursor to change that evolutionists in a minority and I have thought about. It was rather that the anthropology held the day as to why I did not move over to the ICR style directly.I LEARned that these scientists maintain a closed shop. If you think it is hard to understand me with respect to something that AD WHite wrote about and you would think a student at his school would be permitted to DO but not in fact before the fact just imagine how I feel that without the problem of WOR DS entering as here in C/E becasue an editor could not notice that I had differentiated a British Snake and an American one (Nerodia (for me Natrix) and Corneliiasponpurpose) which were not misspelled and merely placed in a sentence edited out the actual point I was making in the research paper (that was one on fish handling procedure of snake observed). This same problem of my ability to have seen in nature before I write appeared quite nasty when L Pierce Williams insisted on giving me an F because he could not judge that I had leared to tell even more snakes a part as part of an indepenet study on color. RIght now I am working on salamders of the Southern Applachians and I await the day that I can report this same effect with an even lower kind.As for MSN, I was pleased to have found LUX there but again who knows if people will learn from me what was part of my family or if it will still trend to appear to be learnt from books. This is one subject that acutally can not be found all in books since both spritucal discernment as well as a vessel or two of experments must be bucketd before understanding enuses. By the way my first expt was to measrue the speed of moving snakes.

Brad's (herp's) reference to LUX in the messge above is to a poster at the MSN board. He is the first person I have seen who takes Brad seriously. Lux is into philosophy and seems to have been impressed that Brad sprinkled many of his posts with a few postmodernist thinkers names. But over time I think even Lux has become reluctant to engage Brad in dialogue.

Wj,The issue is not "over time". I am writing science not personal history. I just recieved a rather bad review in the same vein on Darwin Campfire Chat. The issue is communication. If you get something from me that is all you get. Dont expect the world. COm is not community. When I get as philosophical as I can I loose IVY LEAGUE tenured philosophers-- what do you expect? an A where the guy gets an F-- Look if Boyd grades a paper C- and a grad student grades it F? Is that the same grade?? It (the difference) certianly does not reflect on any cotent I provided. All comprehension is not in the reading. Dont forget to do the writing.

"The amazing thing is that I'm not even really sure whether he's a creationist or an evolutionist! "
--Hm.. Ask a couple word question, you get an essay! Now that you mention it, I don't think I know either ------------------

You know this is even a hard one for me. On reading some more of Pascal I now know that the doubt I worked with was certainly classed by Pascal as not Christian but after all the jail time and going to court for being a good student and reading the Bible a lot for my failure twice on asking a hand in marriage it may indeed be soon that I write a testimony COMPLETELY in the transformed tradition whether or not I convert to Catholicism. I am certianly more Christian than my one brother who is not either attending an Episcopal or Presbyterian Church as do the remaining memebers of my immediate family and I do recognize what the Pope wrote and not Gould on 1996 etc though since 9-11 I do think that Islam probably is spritually off even any greek intelectual scholarhip I may do before I die though if Muslim genetics gets results beyond my own postive program of given any two transfinite exponentials to calculate a magnitude number in an arithemetic triangle that incorporates the geometry of resistence to compression and continuity and posses electrotonic functions I may be persuaded to India to think as a young Catholic once inclined my ear as a teen ager but that asummed i was raised in Afganastan or China for instance which I have not. My clarity comes largely through the scriptures so it not going to be the non-demonstable research cycle of Cornell style biology that will do the same for the now political nature of this global agrresion Sarte would have felt but rather a thought on Aristotle or rather Anaxagoras once again even if needing to read some non-western sources that will turn the perversion into the version I understand even if all done by computers and not by philology etc. Good question. Answer seems to be creationist.