Is the debunking of miracles off limits for discussion here?

I titled the subject as I did because, for some, the subject of miracles is held very close to the heart. But I did want to offer up some historical evidence of the insincerity of some miracle workers, so called. I offer it as evidence and not merely to incite those who are religious. I hope that forum administrators will allow it under the sub-forum "Miracles and their affect on Faith".Perhaps you have heard the story of Marjoe Gortner? For those who haven't, Gortner's story is dispassionately told in Wikipedia as follows: Marjoe Gortner - Wikipedia .It is past history but I think still relevant. Marjoe Gortner, started in the evangelizing business at the age of four. He's pretty good; take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSdI8ag1k0A&mode=related&...Here he reveals the tricks of miracles and control of the audience :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0p4ZDnDoQ&mode=related&...To his credit Mr. Gortner "came clean" with regard to his evangelistic style in the 1970's when he joined the hippy movement. He went on to become a movie star, and has since dropped out of sight..Edited by Jon Paine, : spelling

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

But we don't have a topic in message 1 (IMO of course).Try doing another message in this topic, outlining a miracle or two you wish to debunk, and how you are debunking it.Adminnemooseus
(the admin mode of Minnemooseus, BTW)Added by edit: If any non-admin wants to enter an opinion on this matter, the place to do it is the "Considerations..." topic, link below.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.

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Re-edited and re-titled. In this post you will see that a prominent faith healer of his time, much to his credit, debunks himself.In the Richard Dawkins book, The God Delusion, Mr. Dawkins introduced the readers to the story of child evangelist Marjoe Gortner. I googled on the Internet for more info and found that Marjoe's story is dispassionately told in Wikipedia: Marjoe Gortner - Wikipedia .Marjoe Gortner, under the influence of controlling evangelical parents started his own ministry at the age of four. He was pretty good; take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSdI8ag1k0A&mode=related&...Later as a young adult, Mr. Gortner made a documentary debunking his own preaching as seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0p4ZDnDoQ&mode=related&...To his credit Marjoe Gortner "came clean" with regard to his evangelistic style in the 1970's when he joined the hippy movement. He went on to become a movie star, and has since dropped out of sight. I would be interested in comments and reaction from both believers and unbelievers regarding this post.

I'm less than enthusiastic about message 3 as a basis for a new topic, but I offhand don't see anyway of improving it. I'll give message 3 a "with reservations" spin-off, to become message 1 of the new topic. The message title will be "Marjoe Gortner - Self-proclaimed false faith healer".Stand by.AdminnemooseusEdited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed "subtitle" to "title" in message body. Also changed subtitle.

Cool. I don't know how to improve it either.
I like the idea of letting it live or die on it's own merits.