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redstang281
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Message 1 of 58 (3695)
02-07-2002 3:06 PM


Evolutionist, why do you enjoy debating creationists?

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Minnemooseus
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Message 2 of 58 (3737)
02-07-2002 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by redstang281
02-07-2002 3:06 PM


There is a certain intellectual stimulation to discussing any topic. I doubt, however, that this little piece of the electronic world will have any influence on the larger world.
I also expect to learn something about the Bible, Christianity, and religion in general, and also about aspects of science.
Moose
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BS degree, geology, '83
Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe

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toff
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Message 3 of 58 (3794)
02-08-2002 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by redstang281
02-07-2002 3:06 PM


quote:
Originally posted by redstang281:
Evolutionist, why do you enjoy debating creationists?

It's a bit like some horror movies, which people view for entertainment - I find the creationists' posts invariably both (a) funny and (b) scary. That's why I like debating them...it's entertaining.
Oh, plus, very, very occasionally, you can get one to actually do some research, maybe read a book, and LEARN something about the scientific theory he dismisses, invariably based on virtually no knowledge of it.

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TrueCreation
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Message 4 of 58 (3837)
02-08-2002 12:11 PM
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02-08-2002 7:22 AM


"It's a bit like some horror movies, which people view for entertainment - I find the creationists' posts invariably both (a) funny and (b) scary. That's why I like debating them...it's entertaining.
Oh, plus, very, very occasionally, you can get one to actually do some research, maybe read a book, and LEARN something about the scientific theory he dismisses, invariably based on virtually no knowledge of it."
--I could say the same thing for evolutionist, but unfortunatelly my assertion would simply mean nothing to you as yours seems to mean nothing to myself.
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joz
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Message 5 of 58 (3838)
02-08-2002 12:13 PM
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02-08-2002 12:11 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
/B]
For the Grammar.......

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TrueCreation
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Message 6 of 58 (3843)
02-08-2002 12:23 PM
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02-08-2002 12:13 PM


"For the Grammar......."
--And? My grammer what?
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joz
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Message 7 of 58 (3844)
02-08-2002 12:28 PM
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02-08-2002 12:23 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
My grammer what?
Is pretty poor actually....
I meant the comment as a joke, if your grammar really bothered me I would have let you know long before now....
[This message has been edited by joz, 02-08-2002]

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KingPenguin
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Message 8 of 58 (3952)
02-09-2002 11:17 PM


yeah debating is fun, wow im agreeing with an evolutionist. look out!!!! here comes the apocalypse. :-)
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toff
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Message 9 of 58 (4092)
02-11-2002 6:55 AM
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02-08-2002 12:11 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
--I could say the same thing for evolutionist, but unfortunatelly my assertion would simply mean nothing to you as yours seems to mean nothing to myself.

And if you DID say it about evolutionists, your comment would be nonsensical, since evolutionists are familiar with creationism, its arguments, and its propositions. Creationists are not familiar with evolution. They invariably know virtually nothing about it.

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Peter
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Message 10 of 58 (4093)
02-11-2002 6:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by redstang281
02-07-2002 3:06 PM


quote:
Originally posted by redstang281:
Evolutionist, why do you enjoy debating creationists?

Creationist, why do you enjoy debating evolutionists?

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redstang281
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Message 11 of 58 (4101)
02-11-2002 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Minnemooseus
02-07-2002 6:07 PM


quote:
Originally posted by minnemooseus:
There is a certain intellectual stimulation to discussing any topic. I doubt, however, that this little piece of the electronic world will have any influence on the larger world.
I also expect to learn something about the Bible, Christianity, and religion in general, and also about aspects of science.

The Bible interests you?

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redstang281
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Message 12 of 58 (4102)
02-11-2002 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by toff
02-08-2002 7:22 AM


[b] [QUOTE] Oh, plus, very, very occasionally, you can get one to actually do some research, maybe read a book, and LEARN something about the scientific theory he dismisses, invariably based on virtually no knowledge of it.
[/b][/QUOTE]
Are you under the impression that any creationist position is based on lack of knowledge?

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redstang281
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Message 13 of 58 (4104)
02-11-2002 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by toff
02-11-2002 6:55 AM


quote:
Originally posted by toff:
And if you DID say it about evolutionists, your comment would be nonsensical, since evolutionists are familiar with creationism, its arguments, and its propositions. Creationists are not familiar with evolution. They invariably know virtually nothing about it.

I think I speak for a lot of us here when I say I disagree with that. I have researched both sides in my own free time. I'm not sure a person can get through college, high school, junior high, or even grade school without learning about evolution. However, it is intirely possible for someone to go through life without studying the creationist side. I think it is absolutely safe to say there are more evolutionist that haven't heard the creationist side than their are creationist that haven't heard the evolutionist side.

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redstang281
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Message 14 of 58 (4105)
02-11-2002 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Peter
02-11-2002 6:57 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
Creationist, why do you enjoy debating evolutionists?
I really don't enjoy debates. I only come here in the hope that I can show people there's not just one side. I'd like to make a difference.

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Peter
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Posts: 2161
From: Cambridgeshire, UK.
Joined: 02-05-2002


Message 15 of 58 (4106)
02-11-2002 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by redstang281
02-11-2002 8:56 AM


quote:
Originally posted by redstang281:
I really don't enjoy debates. I only come here in the hope that I can show people there's not just one side. I'd like to make a difference.

The you've answered your own question.

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