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Author Topic:   Invitation to group about created kinds.
SAGREB
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Message 1 of 9 (12575)
07-02-2002 2:47 PM


Hi, I welcome everyone who see this to join my msn-group about created kinds. (Its about the animals that descend from the same ancestor.)
http://groups.msn.com/Createdkinds
Zauruz

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Andya Primanda
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Message 2 of 9 (12663)
07-03-2002 3:53 AM
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07-02-2002 2:47 PM


Created kinds? As in 'cat kind' (cats, lions, tigers, lynx, cheetah) and 'humankind' (man, chimp, bonobo, australopithecine)
sorry. just a tease

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SAGREB
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Message 3 of 9 (12664)
07-03-2002 5:27 AM
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07-03-2002 3:53 AM


However. Its no question that there are kinds.

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Brad McFall
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Message 4 of 9 (12969)
07-07-2002 4:40 PM
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07-03-2002 3:53 AM


White, or any color Andy I have posted over their as said by name HERP which I did have used on me over two decades ago. Try it Mickey likes it. I even was able to spell Zzzzzzs name all the way out!!

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SAGREB
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Message 6 of 9 (13263)
07-10-2002 5:07 PM
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07-07-2002 4:40 PM


Are you "Herp" in my group!?
Cool!

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Brad McFall
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Message 7 of 9 (14220)
07-26-2002 12:04 PM
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07-10-2002 5:07 PM


Yes

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Brad McFall
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Message 8 of 9 (14908)
08-06-2002 2:01 PM
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07-03-2002 5:27 AM


Z, I still have not had the time to co-ordinate you r thought with mine, but this phsysical idea I am hinting at below if true may even be rigorous enough to spell the absoltue word "K" "I" "N" "D" in Maxwell actual writings so to be of more use to bariminology than my own against wrongful anti-creationist rehtoric (technobable) etc.
Thus Cantor's notion of order-type can like that of cardinal, be made sense of, though only at the expense of rather strong ordering assumptions, (which need not be assumed if the face division be sorted beyond Pascal by complement or supplement) ("John Bell has pointed out to me that the problem of defining order-types is an instance of the problem of finding skeletal categories. A skeleton for a category C is a (full) sub-category D such that each object of C is isomorphic to a unique object of D.")
Without Anaxagoras this can be uniquely accomplished once morphogentics replaces morphological categories (no matter the statistical refinement with the newer levels of organization in population genetic data sharing) only by said skeletons. In this replacment of morphology
Maxwell
"We may now recapitulate the assumptions we have made, and the results we have obtained."
"(1) Magneto-electric phenomena are due to the existence of matter under certain conditions of motion" from which Cantor's strong ordering assumptions can be yoked "or of pressure "that is harnessed to sperated chromosomes that otherwise would remain together "in every part of the magnetic field" which does not mean that virtual reality can be ignored ", and not to direct action at a distance" which will depend if an atomic theory is also pursued "between the magnetis and currents" which will be modeled in the metabolism of magnotactic bacteria". The substance producing" regulatory proteins "these effects may be a certain part of ordinary matter" outside the protoplasm and contribute to Newton's gentle earth ", or it may may be an aether associated with matter" thus also possibly on both sides of the golgi body". Its density is greatest in iron, and least in diamagnetic substances; but it must be in all cases, except that of iron, very rare, since no other substance has a large ratio of magnetic capacity to what we call a vacuum."
"(2)The condition in any part of the field, through which lines of magnetic force pass, is one of unequal pressure in different directions"composing out to genetic variation "the direction of the lines of force being that of least pressure, so that the lines of force "hat do not fall between cell divisions exactly " may be considered lines of tension" which could be bioentropisms bioloigcally but not free path lengh changes which if adapted would not come from within this space.
"(3) This inequality of pressure is produced by the existence in the medium of vorticies or eddies" between the nucleus and cytoplasm that return intercellularly kinematics "having thier axes in the direction of the lines of force "thus the biology is not at competition with the Helmhoklz ion theory but shows that some history of chemistry that tried to write away vital forces wrote this somehow else. "and having thier direction of rotation determined by that of the lines of force "thus making perversions subject to natural selection and opening the way for a transmission genetics in laws of growth.
No one seemed to know the direction that Pascal watched his watch with and people generally do not know mine neither. Maxwell had one too.
[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 08-06-2002]

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Brad McFall
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Message 9 of 9 (22680)
11-14-2002 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by SAGREB
07-02-2002 2:47 PM


This is an example of my latest post there+
From: herp (Original Message) Sent: 11/14/2002 10:48 AM
After Mendel expresses symbolically a means to mathematically manipulate pollen and egg cells (by a difference of numerator and denominator coordination; which by use of the symbolic programing tools of MATHEMATICA is not confined to Mendels format) he notes how the "program" would identify which extractions were OF LIKE KIND. My suggestion is that if one does not accept evolutionist "species" selection then a BARAMIN could be the nature of this "independence" of the hybrid(Mendel) from the prior topography the "parentals" were in but not the ancestors (no matter ones position on the kind of baramins that ascend). Mendel appears to have stressed "parents" to keep the appropriate experimental philosophy focus which was by the 'reciprocal cross' able to man-make and thus Know which hybrids were from which parents but if the geographic distributions do indeed express a generalization of the experimental experience of Mendel (due to peas not having differences due to lateralization and branching of the reproductive tissue) which can beyond multiplication use a general B. Russel relation in a set theory for fidelity in the modeling) then it is possible to answer some of Croizat's questions about which way the motion to change occured absolutely (refernecing the topography involved to Earth geography) not by the hybrids themselves despite their independence but due to either differences in quantity of sperm/pollen vs eggs reproduced and or wich is symbolically manipulated in the least common denominator or not.

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